Am I racist?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Beer, Feb 26, 2015.

  1. b_line

    b_line Well-Known Member

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    1. If you are as educated as you are acting, how in the hell are you possibly arguing that there are not different populations on this earth? It is obvious to anyone over five years old that people are different in different areas of the world, and there are heritable traits that have become pretty standard to groups of people. Northern Europeans are white in general. Africans, for the most part are black. I don't understand why you feel the need to bring up pigmentation percentage. It is asinine to say that you think Europeans and Africans have the same skin color, even if you are just being a dick about it.

    2. Let's not call it race then if you do not think that race exists, or don't like the word. But how do you explain the difference in heritable traits of on group of people vs another? How do you explain an isolated group like the Australian aborigines that were isolated for around 40,000 years and are not closely related genetically to any other modern humans? How do you explain Africans not having Neanderthal DNA of we are all supposed to be he same? Literally the rest of the world shares up to 2% Neanderthal DNA. If not race, population, ethnicity, then what shall we call these distinctions?

    3. Australian aborigines are a race that can be pretty clearly defined as those people who are native to Australia before other people arrived there in modernity. Their DNA has been proven to be most closely related to Africans who left Africa nearly 75,000 years ago. They were isolated there for tens of thousands of years, developing traits that suited life in the deserts of Australia, their skin producing more melanin to combat the sun being one of them. Many African people are the same way, obviously there are many different groups in Africa, but a lot of Africans are tall and lanky because it was better for staying cool in the hot sun, an enhanced cooling mechanism for their bodies.
     
  2. b_line

    b_line Well-Known Member

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    If you call nailing it denying that heritable traits and differing ancestry exist, then I guess you could be right in your own mind.
     
  3. Darkwing Duck

    Darkwing Duck Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, when one strawmans, it's hard to take one seriously.
     
  4. Jazz Insider

    Jazz Insider Banned

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    in conclusion i think we can all agree OP is racialist
     
  5. Darkwing Duck

    Darkwing Duck Well-Known Member

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    But you can't differentiate because the lighter skinned "black" people have lighter skin that the darker skinned "white" people, so skin color ISN'T sufficient for racial identification.

    Alleles, different genes. People can, and do, have the genetic material required for what you want to classify but not fit in that classification. That's the problem. You must be incredibly specific on defining a group or it loses scientific muster. You would have to say, for example, a geographical locale where a specific group of people tend to mate with show a trend toward a certain trait. Race, or any other simple nomenclature, is insufficient since at that point, there would be, as I said, millions of "races" or whatever term you'd want to use to try to clarify.



    "a lot of x" is insufficient for racial identity. There are Africans that are not lanky and not tall. There are non-Africans that are lanky and tall. That's where problems lie. Are aborigines black or not? As you say, the gene pool is fairly diverse from Africans. There are way too many exceptions and inconsistencies to properly classify people by race.
     
  6. ♪alt13

    ♪alt13 Well-Known Member

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    Africans are genetically closest to Europeans. Fact

    Your notions about melanin are just that notions.

    Watch the link. I time indexed it for you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvG1ylKhzoo&feature=youtu.be&t=56m30s
     
  7. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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  8. Hantlers

    Hantlers Well-Known Member

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    This thing is still going?

    Idiots.
     
  9. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    We can only hope.
    Jackazzzessszzz
     
  10. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Well it is now...
     
  11. VINYLONE

    VINYLONE Bringin' the diversity! Contributor

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    I don't think your racist. I mean, just off this post, there's not enough to know if you are one. Then again, I'm a believer that being a racist has connotations of power and systemic abuse associated with it so my bar is much higher than most. I do believe you're a class A bigot though.

    While reading your post, the question that begged to be asked in my mind is how you came to the conclusion that the person you were dealing with was of Mexican heritage. I do my fair share of craigslisting out here and never, not once, has the discussion of race or ethnicity come up. I think I understand where you're coming from if only from this part of your post:

    Like GF, I've always used the first come, first serve policy. It's the easiest thing to do. Since, I don't want my time wasted and I don't want to waste anyone elses time, I always make sure to discuss the details of the transaction before agreeing to a sale. It's easier that way.

    Anyway, yeah, you sound like a bigot.
     
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  12. Beer

    Beer Well-Known Member

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    To save you some time in reading back through all 20 pages. He left a VM, he sounded like every other Mexican just learning English. I guess he could have been a Russian with a Mexican accent but its unlikely. Now before you go off saying "Well, he might have been Venezuelan or Costa Rican or blah blah." Thats stupid so save your breath.
     
  13. VINYLONE

    VINYLONE Bringin' the diversity! Contributor

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    Makes sense.
     

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