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Rodney Hood named Rookie of the Month

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Siro said:
Okay, so he has a second round pick value. The question was whether you think Lavine is among the best rookies in this draft (second to Wiggins!). Burks is a good player. But if someone suggested we trade Burks for Curry, then he'd be suggesting we trade Curry for garbage, relatively speaking. To call Lavine a proven top 3 pick, then suggest that trading him for a 12th + 20th + second round pick to be "excessive" is nonsense. That's all I'm saying. If he's that good, then that trade would be a steal for us.
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I didn't call him that. I love his potential, and always have. I don't think people view him as top 3 at all, though. I think he has that potential, but very unproven at this point. Jabari went down fast, we haven't seen Embiid, or Saric, A. Gordon was hurt a lot of the year, most people like Payton better than Lavine (for good reason too), Mirotic had some monster games, etc.

At this stage, two firsts, and the choice of Trey or Pleis for a player who doesn't help you win yet, isn't garbage. If lavine had a longer track record of empty stats (say proposal was offered next season, instead of offseason) then I could understand your point. Right now, Lavine is just potential and a very good dunker. No track record. No college stats to prove otherwise, either.

On the NBa Rookie ladder he is ranked 10th, and that's w/o us having seen Embiid, Parker, or A-God truly healthy, or Saric who scouts are very high on.
https://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/04/15/2014-15-final-rookie-ladder/index.html
 
Sexual Favors said:
I don't think people view him as top 3 at all, though. I think he has that potential, but very unproven at this point. Jabari went down fast, we haven't seen Embiid, or Saric, A. Gordon was hurt a lot of the year, most people like Payton better than Lavine (for good reason too), Mirotic had some monster games, etc.

At this stage, two firsts, and the choice of Trey or Pleis for a player who doesn't help you win yet, isn't garbage. If lavine had a longer track record of empty stats (say proposal was offered next season, instead of offseason) then I could understand your point. Right now, Lavine is just potential and a very good dunker. No track record. No college stats to prove otherwise, either.

On the NBa Rookie ladder he is ranked 10th, and that's w/o us having seen Embiid, Parker, or A-Tod truly healthy.
https://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/04/15/2014-15-final-rookie-ladder/index.html
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Okay. You seemed to agree with addictionary that Lavine is second most impressive rookie behind Wiggins. In that case, the trade would be a no-brainer. But you're right. If he's just barely a top 10 player in the draft, then offering 12th pick + sweetener would be fair. Still nothing excessive. I doubt anyone would think they came out on top even.

I would do the trade regardless. I don't think Lavine is great, but whoever we draft with the 12th pick would carry some risk as well. At least we know Lavine is likely to develop into a nice offensive player, and can be a boon off the bench. OKC's pick doesn't excite me at all, and Burke is bad.
 
Siro said:
Okay. You seemed to agree with addictionary that Lavine is second most impressive rookie behind Wiggins. In that case, the trade would be a no-brainer. But you're right. If he's just barely a top 10 player in the draft, then offering 12th pick + sweetener would be fair. Still nothing excessive. I doubt anyone would think they came out on top even.

I would do the trade regardless. I don't think Lavine is great, but whoever we draft with the 12th pick would carry some risk as well. At least we know Lavine is likely to develop into a nice offensive player, and can be a boon off the bench. OKC's pick doesn't excite me at all, and Burke is bad.
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Just because I agree, or lean that way, shouldn't matter. All that should matter is his value to MIN , value to us, and his league-wide value.
 
Siro said:
Okay, so he has a second round pick value. The question was whether you think Lavine is among the best rookies in this draft (second to Wiggins!). Burks is a good player. But if someone suggested we trade Burks for Curry, then he'd be suggesting we trade Curry for garbage, relatively speaking. To call Lavine a proven top 3 pick, then suggest that trading him for a 12th + 20th + second round pick to be "excessive" is nonsense. That's all I'm saying. If he's that good, then that trade would be a steal for us.
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Yeah, I agree, I just don't agree with the evaluation of Lavine as a top 3 pick. I don't think he's shown that he's worth even the pick he was drafted with, let alone top 3.
 
Considering Lavine gave up so many points to everyone's least favorite Jazz player, this player who is lucky to be in the league and we would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for, if Lavine gave up so many points against this player but they hate the player that scored so many points ..... why would they want ...... I'm sooo confused.
 
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