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Could Kaminsky be Memo part 2?
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I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but for the sake of simplicity, sure.

This is another thing: How can we have so many people wringing their hands about the defensive ability of a ****ing backup who will be twice the defensive player Memo was in his sleep, while simultaneously having so many people be all rosy about one of the most pathetic defensive players I have ever ****ing seen? Memo could only guard the post, and only against players about as slow as he was (and he was one of the slowest), but anything outside of that scenario and he was worse than worthless. I couldn't count the amount of times that he would lazily slap the off-arm of a player getting to the rim in order to prevent "easy buckets" and instead just giving up an easy bucket AND a trip to the line.

Kaminsky will be far better than Memo defensively, and that's not even a compliment.
 
Some work out tidbits from Ford

Looney: Workout was so so, but this concerns

Looney's been focusing heavily on conditioning, including daily yoga sessions, to gain more flexibility, after drawing some criticism from NBA teams for sometimes seeming winded when he was out there. He has a better excuse than some. Last year, Looney injured his right hip flexor and was unable to practice with the UCLA team right up until the start of the 2014-15 season. The injury not only kept him from working out, but it also took away some of his flexibility, making him appear a little more stiff than he actually was. His agent also said Looney suffers from a form of "sports asthma" that requires him to use an inhaler before games (something easily treated in the NBA, several GMs told me). Considering all of that, perhaps Looney's perceived lack of energy and the criticism from scouts all season was a bit unwarranted.
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Vaughn- Best work out he has seen. Looks to rise up the boards.

"The kid was on fire," one GM said. "I love the energy that he attacked the workout with. He's out to prove something. I saw him standing on the sidelines before it was his time to go in and he looked like a tiger stalking his prey. He was ready."It wasn't only shooting that made Vaughn shine. Vaughn was in great shape, showed off more athletic explosion than he's shown in a while and quieted some concerns about the left knee he injured toward the end of the season.
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RHJ- Same story Monster defender with no offense

The workout setting wasn't as kind to Hollis-Jefferson. While he was able to show off his explosive athletic ability and length, the focus on shooting highlighted his biggest weakness on Thursday night in Santa Monica.

Hollis-Jefferson did hit shots. A number of them. But he was matched up with Vaughn, Connaughton and Brown all night, and he just can't shoot it the same way they can.
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Crossing Looney of my shortlist, but Vaughn is looking intriguing. RHJ is just not a good fit for current needs
 
Chad Ford Chat

Chris (Salt Lake City)

You knew this was coming..... Jazz? Who? Please not Frank the Tank
Chad Ford (1:45 PM)

He's in the mix. So is Myles Turner, Trey Lyles, Cameron Payne, Sam Dekker, Kelly Oubre. I think Lyles makes a lot of sense for them on a number of fronts.
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Why does anyone want to spend a good asset on a guy that will only play as long as the other team is too lazy to ignore him? Tony Allen is great, but it's really easy to force him off the floor.

If you have a guy that can ride pine indefinitely and guard his *** off when his number is called and you don't invest much to get one, great. But sacrificing a chance at acquiring a real rotational player for a guy you can't keep on the floor is bat-**** dumb.

Now, if you trade down and get the guy you wanted anyway, and end up with a pick you can use on RHJ, then I'm on board. But that's the only scenario.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Why does anyone want to spend a good asset on a guy that will only play as long as the other team is too lazy to ignore him? Tony Allen is great, but it's really easy to force him off the floor.

If you have a guy that can ride pine indefinitely and guard his *** off when his number is called and you don't invest much to get one, great. But sacrificing a chance at acquiring a real rotational player for a guy you can't keep on the floor is bat-**** dumb.

Now, if you trade down and get the guy you wanted anyway, and end up with a pick you can use on RHJ, then I'm on board. But that's the only scenario.
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Because RHJ is a flat out monster.

Possibly the best defender in the draft and possibly the most complete athlete (both explosive, quick, and strong).

I agree though I probably wouldn't take him at 12. I don't think we could trade to get him, I think he will go in the early 20's.

We should try to get Michael Qualls in the 2nd round though. Similar player to RHJ, but more of a guard and actually has a workable shot (was actually on fire from deep in during the non-conference schedule, take note of his huge increase in FT% from sophomore to junior year, great sign for future shooting). More explosive athlete and plays very hard. Ridiculous wingspan and standing reach for his height.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Qualls-59353/

If he goes #46, then he is a steal. I would take him with out 1st 2nd round pick for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r2mvLkNLiI
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRcJvpXsjM

@ 2:25 he does a Karl Malone tribute dunk, destined to be a Jazz player.
 
Alpha Kaba yo.. Looks legit, I know he's a better project than Livio Jean-Charles.. he's match on this roster, (develop him for the Jeremy Evans role, or keep him overseas).. He's obviously a project, interesting size and skillset for sure tho, he's raw but its not all natural born talent, he's got some skills for being born in '96.

I'd be happy if he's the pick at 42, at 56 it'd be robbery.

His team Pau-Orthez apparently measured him at 7'5½" wingspan, 2 weeks ago, so He's big enough to play some backup C, if he can put on some good weight like Clint Capela did this year.


6'10, hes mobile - any footage you can find will show him jumping the passing lanes and dribbling to the basket, he like's to shoot 3's, his mechanics kinda look like Caboclo' because of the wingspan, he doesnt look exceptionally explosive, but appears light on his feet,. He looks almost exactly like ex Nugget and ex Heat player Yakhuba Diawarra, but taller and younger.

Lotta meh in this years PF crop if ya ask me, I think thats the position that stays on the board late this year, Kaba could still be growing, he's definitely got plenty of upside and he's french so Rudy will love him
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but for the sake of simplicity, sure.

This is another thing: How can we have so many people wringing their hands about the defensive ability of a ****ing backup who will be twice the defensive player Memo was in his sleep, while simultaneously having so many people be all rosy about one of the most pathetic defensive players I have ever ****ing seen? Memo could only guard the post, and only against players about as slow as he was (and he was one of the slowest), but anything outside of that scenario and he was worse than worthless. I couldn't count the amount of times that he would lazily slap the off-arm of a player getting to the rim in order to prevent "easy buckets" and instead just giving up an easy bucket AND a trip to the line.

Kaminsky will be far better than Memo defensively, and that's not even a compliment.
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Memo only played poor defense because he knew boozer was patrolling the paint to clean up his mistakes
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Alpha Kaba yo.. Looks legit, I know he's a better project than Livio Jean-Charles.. he's match on this roster, (develop him for the Jeremy Evans role, or keep him overseas).. He's obviously a project, interesting size and skillset for sure tho, he's raw but its not all natural born talent, he's got some skills for being born in '96.

I'd be happy if he's the pick at 42, at 56 it'd be robbery.

His team Pau-Orthez apparently measured him at 7'5½" wingspan, 2 weeks ago, so He's big enough to play some backup C, if he can put on some good weight like Clint Capela did this year.


6'10, hes mobile - any footage you can find will show him jumping the passing lanes and dribbling to the basket, he like's to shoot 3's, his mechanics kinda look like Caboclo' because of the wingspan, he doesnt look exceptionally explosive, but appears light on his feet,. He looks almost exactly like ex Nugget and ex Heat player Yakhuba Diawarra, but taller and younger.

Lotta meh in this years PF crop if ya ask me, I think thats the position that stays on the board late this year, Kaba could still be growing, he's definitely got plenty of upside and he's french so Rudy will love him
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Please tell me more and I want videos. I did see one of him shooting and he hit a couple of outside shots.
 
orangello said:
I tried to rep but I must spread it first.

Also, can you post the info for the French guy that he (Chad Ford) referenced in his tweet?
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mellow said:
Ford also talks about the French forward: Alpha Kaba. Did he mention if the Jazz were there?
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From Ford, about Kaba:
Alpha Kaba, F/C, France
Kaba was the big surprise in workouts over the weekend. He drew a ton of buzz from scouts -- by far the most of any guy I saw. Very few in the gym had ever seen him play, but they came away impressed.

For those who aren't familiar with Kaba, he's an 18-year-old, 6-foot-10 big man from France with a 7-foot-3 wingspan who had scouts whispering "Clint Capela" to each other. He's big, super long and moves well for a player his size. He can play the pick-and-pop game, and his shot looked very solid in the workouts.

However, he's the definition of raw. He's extremely foul prone. He played in just eight games for Pau-Orthez in France this season, averaging four minutes per game. But he averaged 13 PPG and 8 RPG in the European Under-18 championships last year, and in a draft where there are few international players worth taking a risk on in the late first or early second round, Kaba is definitely good a draft-and-stash type of prospect.

The word among scouts is that Kaba is willing to stay in the draft if he can get a promise from a team.

"He's going to get one," one NBA scout told me after the workout. "He's the perfect draft-and-stash pick. Lots of upside there if he continues to develop in Europe. He'll end up going in the late first or somewhere early in the second round."
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NUMBERICA said:
Why does anyone want to spend a good asset on a guy that will only play as long as the other team is too lazy to ignore him? Tony Allen is great, but it's really easy to force him off the floor.

If you have a guy that can ride pine indefinitely and guard his *** off when his number is called and you don't invest much to get one, great. But sacrificing a chance at acquiring a real rotational player for a guy you can't keep on the floor is bat-**** dumb.

Now, if you trade down and get the guy you wanted anyway, and end up with a pick you can use on RHJ, then I'm on board. But that's the only scenario.
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This. If Utah wants to add a defensive player who can't shoot, those players can be found elsewhere. If they are taking a chance on a one way player at 12, it should be a shooter. I'd be fine with Utah gambling on someone they think can develop into a 2-way player, but it needs to be someone who is at least somewhat competent on the offensive end.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
This. If Utah wants to add a defensive player who can't shoot, those players can be found elsewhere. If they are taking a chance on a one way player at 12, it should be a shooter. I'd be fine with Utah gambling on someone they think can develop into a 2-way player, but it needs to be someone who is at least somewhat competent on the offensive end.
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Not sure there is anyone out there with RHJ's combination of length, defensive, strength, and athleticism. Also, he isn't offensively retarded outside of his jumper. He attacks well and has a good touch around the rim.
 
So I liked clint Capela and Damien Inglis, but the Jazz missed both. Now I want alpha Kabba.

Oh, and draft that Cameron Payne guy too I guess.
 
The question is ... is he really an alpha? :P

But seriously... looks very intriguing... Looks like he can run the floor, shoot 3s... I don't know how he is defensively but his length suggests he has the chance to be good.
 
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