Dumb pig cops getting smarter?

[Witty Username]

Yeah his word selection was way off base

Off base? Off base would be calling them delinquents- kids swimming at a pool during the summer. Calling them 'hoodrat monkeys' will put you in a ring of hell close to Hitler. Kick rocks defending his argument, pleb, then wake up in the morning and look at yourself in the mirror.

Good ****ing quote right here:

they where acting like a bunch of hoodrat monkeys, being a burden on the neighborhood.
a detriment on peace in that neighborhood
hahahahahhahahahaa
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Yeah, great argument

 

[fishonjazz]

Sure. It means this forum has too many unchecked trolls that type out some truly clownish Utah racist rhetoric. Same fellows that also call themselves 'Christian'; as long as they can drink by themselves, knock up their wives every year or so, and sit pat with their testimony for a con artist on a weekly basis, then discussions like this are clearly skewed towards inane.

He aint utahn

 

[Stoked]

He aint utahn

Or Mormon or American...

Is Dutch even a self proclaimed Christian?

Edit: Not that any of that justifies or excuses Dutch's views or word choices.

 

[LogGrad98]

Or Mormon or American...

Is Dutch even a self proclaimed Christian?

Edit: Not that any of that justifies or excuses Dutch's views or word choices.

Pretty sure he is Jewish tbh.


But we are all now guilty of feeding the trolls.

 

[LogGrad98]

Pretty sure witty is an alt of highlandhomie. Either that or a clone.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

^basically copy-and-paste this in reference to the past 500 years. Probably more.

If anything, things are far better today than they've been in the past. A police force that is accountable to the people it polices, and which is bound by the rule of law, is a relatively new concept in human history, and even in the US.

 

[NAOS]

If anything, things are far better today than they've been in the past. A police force that is accountable to the people it polices, and which is bound by the rule of law, is a relatively new concept in human history, and even in the US.

it isn't a new concept. Not even close. You're revising history from the standpoint of modern calamities. It's a common error, but still a stupid one.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

The behavior of the cops in this video is inexcusable, but on that same day I am certain there were thousands upon thousands of instances of policemen handling things appropriately. It does not make logical sense to blame all of those good cops for the behavior of the clueless cop any more than it makes sense for racists to make decisions based on skin color. If anything the foolish cop is endangering the lives of other policemen by fueling the stereotype of the racist, out-of-control, cop. The irony is how similar that cop and his approach to handling the situation at the swimming pool is to Highland Homie and his approach to spreading the news about what this cop did wrong.

My hope is that the cop is punished appropriately. He should permanently lose his badge and he should also face a significant amount of community service and restitution to these people (especially the girl). I think that's likely to happen. As for people like HH facing consequences for their efforts to incite hate, I'm pretty sure they will never face any real consequences (except that they might find themselves gaining a bit more perspective and adjusting their approach as they mature).

 

[Stoked]

I was disappointed in the blonde cop that is in the video calmly talking to people and trying to figure out what is going on. The dark haired cop was acting a fool right in front of him and he did nothing.

The dark haired cop is the exact type of cop I hope would be weeded out with stricter requirements to become a cop.

I hate these videos as well as they do not tell the whole story (which could even be worse than the video shows). It provides no back story and no context other then people assuming what happens.

GF made some good points about all the things done wrong on all sides. Having said that as police they need to be held to a higher standard and harsher punishment when needed.

 

[DutchJazzer]

My hope is that the cop is punished appropriately. He should permanently lose his badge and he should also face a significant amount of community service and restitution to these people (especially the girl). I think that's likely to happen. As for people like HH facing consequences for their efforts to incite hate, I'm pretty sure they will never face any real consequences (except that they might find themselves gaining a bit more perspective and adjusting their approach as they mature).

what about the consequences to these juveniles?
they should be free from consequences right.

cus thats how it works these days.


lets ruin the lives of the cop and his (wife and kids if he has any). while these juveniles are free from any blame whatsoever while they INSTIGATED this ****.

because of their disrespectful pos attitude the cops had to be called.

so yeah lets give them free rain to disrespect property and people.


nobody is saying this because it is not politically correct. ooh well this is the pos world we live in.


on top of that you want restitution?
so a reward for acting like a hoodrat monkey dispresecting private property. the civilans and the law?


hahahahahahahahaha

gtfo with your liberal propaganda

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

what about the consequences to these juveniles?
they should be free from consequences right.

cus thats how it works these days.

No, they should face consequences but there was absolutely no reason to escalate this event in the way that cop did. Nothing good could possibly have come of kneeling on that girl.

 

[Stoked]

No, they should face consequences but there was absolutely no reason to escalate this event in the way that cop did. Nothing good could possibly have come of kneeling on that girl.

Not to mention the whole adult v. teen angle. The officer was an adult and as a cop he wass (supposedly) trained for situations like this.

Here is a quote for ya'll..."With great power comes great responsibility". As such they sould be held to a higher standard. Especially over a teen.

 

[DutchJazzer]

No, they should face consequences but there was absolutely no reason to escalate this event in the way that cop did. Nothing good could possibly have come of kneeling on that girl.

Not to mention the whole adult v. teen angle. The officer was an adult and as a cop he wass (supposedly) trained for situations like this.

Here is a quote for ya'll..."With great power comes great responsibility". As such they sould be held to a higher standard. Especially over a teen.

what if i told u that thats the way to aprehend an officer. it is part of their takedown training to handcuff a suspect.

dont know about america. but i can tell you that in Israel, Germany and Netherlands that's the training to apprehend when cuffing. seeing as i have no experience with law enforcement training from the us. but there are also standing arm locks etc etc.
so if the kneeing part is the problem than i don't think the cop should be penalized for that. because it is in his training. if you don't agree with that part their needs to be a reform in training methods. he should not be punished for that.

he should be punished for pulling his gun. but he might have feared for his safety as people swarmed him which might have activated his instinct to protect his safety and live. which is wrong as these kids where unarmed. but taking his badge and gun and his job his harsh for a temoporary lapse in judgement/ acting on instinct.


i know law enforcement training so i do know that is a standard technique amongst others. how can you punish him for preforming the technique(albeit a bit sloppy and not 100% perfect)


again thats the problem witht his world everybody has an opinion even when they are not well versed on the subject. and i might be considered a troll, an instigate or someone who sometimes just says **** just to offend the pc crowd. but in this case i am serious and do have the know how and experience about this part of law enforcement training.

during training i have been on both sides of that position and i am stil healthy. but maybe i am just fit and in better condition. all kind of people put me in that position. with all kind of intensity.
i do know it is unpleasant. but it is a way of controlling suspects.
you dont know wtf you are talking about when it comes to this.


edit ofcourse if this technique isnt trained in us law enforcement which i doubt. then my argument falls apart

 

[GVC]

what about the consequences to these juveniles?
they should be free from consequences right.

cus thats how it works these days.

What would give you that idea? I haven't looked at the data/stats on the juvenile corrections system in America, but based on my experience, stories from older people, and the state of adult corrections in the US, I find it hard to believe that law enforcement is easier on minors "these days."

Teens having parties in homes "uninvited", drinking just about any place, swimming in pools uninvited, and (drag) racing (among other youthful indiscretions) was common place where I went to high school. No one ever had a gun pulled on them by a cop (there was a cop who shot two young Mexican kids during drug raids at suspects' homes, however). It was just "boys being boys"/"kids being kids." Stories about youthful behavior from my dad and other older people are far worse (breaking into schools and cottages, harassing teachers, etc.). These are all middle-class-ish white folk though, so perhaps you don't think death is the appropriate punishment for them.

 

[GVC]

Pretty sure he is Jewish tbh.


But we are all now guilty of feeding the trolls.

Yeah...Jewish, brown and non-American. Hard to pin his racism/brutal authoritarianism on Utah culture.

 

[DutchJazzer]

What would give you that idea? I haven't looked at the data/stats on the juvenile corrections system in America, but based on my experience, stories from older people, and the state of adult corrections in the US, I find it hard to believe that law enforcement is easier on minors "these days."

Teens having parties in homes "uninvited", drinking just about any place, swimming in pools uninvited, and (drag) racing (among other youthful indiscretions) was common place where I went to high school. No one ever had a gun pulled on them by a cop (there was a cop who shot two young Mexican kids during drug raids at suspects' homes, however). It was just "boys being boys"/"kids being kids." Stories about youthful behavior from my dad and other older people are far worse (breaking into schools and cottages, harassing teachers, etc.). These are all middle-class-ish white folk though, so perhaps you don't think death is the appropriate punishment for them.

i also did juenile things tresspassing even vandalism
but i might be biased and nostalgic but we did respect the law. and that ****ing with them could result in serious harm or injury. so we eithe rhauled ***, or took our punsiment

now people who break law think they are even bulletproof towards the law. and that cops cant do anything. they are cripled by fear of losing their job, while no consequences are put towards these criminals.


they had enough changes to go away. instead they stood there "like a BOSS' cus "yolo", "swag", #blaclivesmatter and the cops cant do anything about that.

wtf are they suppose to do against this defiant behaviour?

cus talking did not work

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

it isn't a new concept. Not even close. You're revising history from the standpoint of modern calamities. It's a common error, but still a stupid one.

Really?

I'm curious, then. What is the ample historical precedent you believe exists in which a police force (or domestic security force) was held accountable for/and answered to the people they policed, as opposed to the existing power structure? These would include cases in which police or security officers were held to strict standards of rule of law, respected the civil liberties of the people they policed and were somewhat routinely held accountable (e.g., punished) for violating the rule of law/civil liberties. I'm guessing you can cite multiple examples, based on your comment. Remember, these can't be recent (e.g., latter half of 20th century moving forward).

 

[Stoked]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/sc-grand-jury-indicts-police-officer-shot-walter/story?id=31610990

The cop that shot Walter Scott in S.C. has been charged with murder.

 

[GVC]

i also did juenile things tresspassing even vandalism...but we did respect the law.

Uh, what? Did you also huff glue as a child?

they are cripled by fear of losing their job, while no consequences are put towards these criminals.

Once again, what makes you think this? Do you have any evidence? What is the state of juvenile corrections in America today v. 10/20/40 years ago?

 

[DutchJazzer]

Uh, what? Did you also huff glue as a child?

Once again, what makes you think this? Do you have any evidence? What is the state of juvenile corrections in America today v. 10/20/40 years ago?

in this case the cour tof public opinion lays no blame whatsoever towards these criminals. yet they are calling for the firing of the cops.
he is already suspended. these people(according to the youtube video comments of the guy who filmed it. nothing is/has happened to these criminals).
nobody cares what consequences these juveniles face not even the media.

all they care about is crucifying a cop


edit: these cops have uch more to lose, than these juveniles. THEY know that so they PROVOKE.
if you provoke and u get bodily harm good. when i provoke someone i know and calculate the risk of bodily harm and i dont go crying about it or film it