jazzrule
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Right on. That is my take as well, Sloan was just to darn old and stubborn to listen to his best players suggestions on how to make the Jazz better. Enough with the D'Will hate on here.
Official Derren Wiliams is a Bitch Thread
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Right on. That is my take as well, Sloan was just to darn old and stubborn to listen to his best players suggestions on how to make the Jazz better. Enough with the D'Will hate on here.
Archie Moses
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I don't think you've read the thread, guy. But to make it simple, I agree with both points of views in some ways.
If this is the case, creating a poll to assign blame to one of two individuals was an extremely bizarre maneuver.
If there is one guy in all of pro sports that I feel I can take his word at face value, it's Sloan.
jazzrule
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If you were smart as you think you are, you would KNOW from the body language of MANY of the Jazz players that Sloan had lost the team. Sloan was to old and stubborn to listen to his player who only wanted to win.
What you think seems to be pretty far from reality, and this is no exception.
You agreed with a post claiming that there is nobody to blame after making a thread with the sole purpose of blaming someone. Those two things are at odds, guy.
jimmy eat jazz
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Are you f'n kidding me? One thing is perfectly clear and absolutely non debatable--you don't win in the NBA without superstars. God himself could be your coach and you still wouldn't win without superstars.
If Deron is not on this team, the Jazz are a sub-500 team and completely irrelevant. He has absolutely carried the team this year. The Jazz's problem is that it only has a single superstar. Neither Milsap or Jefferson are in this category; both are good players, but not at the elite level to take the team to the promised land.
Hypothetically, if it came down to Deron or Sloan, only a fool, or someone blinded by loyalty, would take Sloan. Without Deron, this team is the Utah version of the Milwaukee Bucks, Charlotte Bobcats, New Jersey Nets, Golden State Warriors, or every other non-factor team out there lacking legit superstars. If in fact Deron's guilty of what he's been accused of; yeah, it disappoints me, but damned if I don't want him out there leading the team, even if it means Corbin on the bench instead of Sloan.
More so than any other sport, the NBA is star-driven. Coaches do matter, but in the end, talent is what really matters most, and the teams that have the most talent win. It really is almost that simple.
Jazz4ever
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Wonder what the other player's reaction would be if a fight broke out? It could actually turn into an all out brawl given the team's frustration level.
Deron's guaranteed posse:
Sap
CJ
Sloan's guaranteed posse:
Raja Bell
Phil Johnson
Harpring (if around)
Other notable reactions:
Fez: Stands around dough faced
Hayward: Cries for mommy
Evans: Unfortunately snapped in two bloody halves trying to break it up
Jefferson: Delivers some push shoves to both trying to break it up
AK: Bolts for Russia
Deron's guaranteed posse:
Sap
CJ
Sloan's guaranteed posse:
Raja Bell
Phil Johnson
Harpring (if around)
Other notable reactions:
Fez: Stands around dough faced
Hayward: Cries for mommy
Evans: Unfortunately snapped in two bloody halves trying to break it up
Jefferson: Delivers some push shoves to both trying to break it up
AK: Bolts for Russia
Easy? Huh.
Fixed.
Throw in some Tela Tequilla and you've got yourself a quality PPV.
To the degree that Deron is to "blame" here, I think it results from his incredible desire to win. He has that desire more than any other Jazz player I can remember. Stock and Malone were great, but they were willing to fit into the system. Deron, on the other hand, is not going to quietly sit and watch. I think you have to respect that. He had the cajones to call out the problems, many of which are commonly talked about here by many posters.
