All-Time NBA Draft Final Four: Ellis269 vs. One Love

[Coach Ellis]

My top 8 (No order)
MJ
Magic
Kareem
Hakeem
Bird
Kobe
Shaq
Wilt

Prolly depends on how you feel about Kobe but personally I would have Duncan 9 - 13....I think he got drafted a little high

Forgot about Shaq and Kobe. I'd put both of them after Wilt and before Duncan. I'd even consider Oscar Robertson before Duncan also.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Wow.. Such disrespect going on right now.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Wow.. Such disrespect going on right now.

I don't know about that. Picking a top 10 is very subjective. While Duncan is awesome and a sure-fire Hall of Famer, my personal opinion is that he wouldn't have fared nearly as well if he'd played most of his career in the 80's or 90's, while I believe most of the guys on my list would thrive in today's game. That's what transcends them.

I loved 80's and 90's basketball. The best eras of the game in terms of dynasties, players and star power. Michael, Magic, Hakeem and Larry owned basketball like nobody but Shaq/Kobe and LeBron have since.

 

[Jazz and Utes]

Wow.. Such disrespect going on right now.

FWIT lebron is around 15 for me right me, most people have him in the top 10, not yet for me.

 

[Elizah Huge]

FWIT lebron is around 15 for me right me, most people have him in the top 10, not yet for me.

Considering he is only 30 years old and is still top-15 is remarkable.

At age 30, Jordan had 3 rings, went to 3 finals, and had 3 MVP's

At age 30, LeBron has 2 rings, has been to 6 finals, and has 4 MVP's.

Considering Jordan won three more championships and played some of his best ball post-30, it's not crazy to think LeBron could get to 10 finals total in his career.

 

[The Midnight]

Considering he is only 30 years old and is still top-15 is remarkable.

At age 30, Jordan had 3 rings, went to 3 finals, and had 3 MVP's

At age 30, LeBron has 2 rings, has been to 6 finals, and has 4 MVP's.

Considering Jordan won three more championships and played some of his best ball post-30, it's not crazy to think LeBron could get to 10 finals total in his career.

Agreed.


If it wasn't for Duncan & Nowitzki ruining it for LeBron, he would have gotten 2 more rings and easily would have been in the same conversation as Jordan.

 

[Miggs]

Yeah, I'll probably end up voting for your team because of defense, but I wanna think about it some more.

Defense seems to be the biggest differences between these teams.

This is how I'm leaning as well. Ellis' wings of Payton, Jordan and Pippen have 26 all-NBA first team awards between them. OneLove's wings of Wilkins, Drexler and Hardaway have ZERO.

That's a monumental nod to Ellis who also has tremendous length behind them with Webber and Ewing.

Also, OneLove's bench sucks too.

 

[The Midnight]

To me Jordan's dominance is muted by the fact that Payton/Jordan/Pippen provide very little 3pt point shooting and the spacing is going to be extremely limited and very crowded in the middle as well.


It's not always about having big names in your team, it's about how they fit together as a team as well.

 

[Miggs]

To me Jordan's dominance is muted by the fact that Payton/Jordan/Pippen provide very little 3pt point shooting and the spacing is going to be extremely limited and very crowded in the middle as well.


It's not always about having big names in your team, it's about how they fit together as a team as well.

Drexler is a career 31.8% shooter from three and Wilkins 31.9%. Your shooting isn't insanely better. His defense is.

 

[The Midnight]

How many rings does your backcourt have?

Mine has 13 to your 1.

Yeah but you're double counting Pippen's & Jordan's rings, plus are you really going to count Payton's ring when you know he won it on the back of Shaq and DWade in Miami?

Supporting casts are pretty close.

Wow... really??? Anthony/George/Irving >>> DWill/Korver/Buter

 

[The Midnight]

Drexler is a career 31.8% shooter from three and Wilkins 31.9%. Your shooting isn't insanely better. His defense is.

Except Wilkins has dominated Pippen whenever he plays...


And you're forgetting that Dirk is on my team... the best 3pt shooting PF ever.

 

[Hotdog]

To me Jordan's dominance is muted by the fact that Payton/Jordan/Pippen provide very little 3pt point shooting and the spacing is going to be extremely limited and very crowded in the middle as well.


It's not always about having big names in your team, it's about how they fit together as a team as well.

Mannnnn.. stfu

Did you vote for my team? No you didnt. What you just described as what should be a good team, is what my team was.

I sported 3 starters who shoot well over 40% from the 3. You were no where around talking about how great my spacing was. Nobody was. So you don't get to use it when talking about what is good basketball.