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Current NBA Draft Final Four: Framer vs. Hack

Who would win in a 7 game series?

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Elizah Huge

Elizah Huge

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Team Framer:

PG - Jeff Teague / Ricky Rubio
SG - Danny Green / Arron Afflalo
SF - Rudy Gay / Aaron Gordon
PF - LaMarcus Aldridge / Amir Johnson
C - Rudy Gobert / Robin Lopez

Team Hack:

PG - Kyrie Irving / Zach Lavine
SG - Kevin Martin / Mario Hezonja
SF - Chandler Parsons / Shabazz Muhammad
PF - Anthony Davis / Terrence Jones
C - Derrick Favors / Mason Plumlee



Framer's Case:

n/a

Hack's Case:

Ultimately the big games are won by the team with the best player or collection of the best of the best. My bench is good, his bench is good. But my collection of Kyrie, Davis, Favors, and Parsons trumps Framer's collection of Gobert, Aldridge, Teague, and Green. Kevin Martin and Gay are a wash. Even though I'd still rather have Kevin Martin. He is a better shooter from 3.

Teague is nice, but he's not Kyrie Irving. Kyrie is on a all NBA talent level. He's right behind Curry in terms of skill level. Did you know that Kyrie has a higher scoring game in Cleveland than Lebron? Irving has a 57 point game and a 55 point game, while Lebron's top game in Cleveland is only 56. Kyrie is a dead eye shooter. Can get to the rim at will. He's right up there in talent with the best players in the league.
 
Tough one. Had to go with hack though
 
Hack, your bench is full of rookies and second year players, not to mention a Plumlee. In comparison with that, my bench is wily and grizzled. Gay is FAR better than Martin who only plays half the time anyway. At this point you have played two series. He is down with an injury. Kyrie is good, no doubt, but Teague holds his opponents to a lower field goal percentage. Kyrie isn't scoring 57 against this defense. You are also banking on both Favors and Davis having improved a lot with their midrange, because it will be hard to score inside on both of these teams. Aldridge has a big advantage there as he will draw either favors or Davis out and make them defend in space. I'll tell you what. I would rather have Green toeing the three line than Parsons. He has shown he cans it when it matters.

All in all, these two teams are really similar, with you holding the slight edge at pg, and me having the better bench. I think you have to admit that Gay and Green are better than Martin and Parsons. In order to win Davis and Favors are going to have to sink the midrange which they have been inconsistent at. I have faith in Aldridge to be the key matchup here. If you defend him with Davis, can Favors keep Gobert off the rim? He struggled defending as a center. It would be a great series to watch.
 
Close one, but Hacks team is a little better. Hacks team has a weak bench but just a little better at enough of the starter positions to win this one.

I would love to watch the Aldridge-Gobert vs Favors-Davis matchup in a real game though.
 
framer said:
Hack, your bench is full of rookies and second year players, not to mention a Plumlee. In comparison with that, my bench is wily and grizzled. Gay is FAR better than Martin who only plays half the time anyway. At this point you have played two series. He is down with an injury. Kyrie is good, no doubt, but Teague holds his opponents to a lower field goal percentage. Kyrie isn't scoring 57 against this defense. You are also banking on both Favors and Davis having improved a lot with their midrange, because it will be hard to score inside on both of these teams. Aldridge has a big advantage there as he will draw either favors or Davis out and make them defend in space. I'll tell you what. I would rather have Green toeing the three line than Parsons. He has shown he cans it when it matters.

All in all, these two teams are really similar, with you holding the slight edge at pg, and me having the better bench. I think you have to admit that Gay and Green are better than Martin and Parsons. In order to win Davis and Favors are going to have to sink the midrange which they have been inconsistent at. I have faith in Aldridge to be the key matchup here. If you defend him with Davis, can Favors keep Gobert off the rim? He struggled defending as a center. It would be a great series to watch.
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I'd rather have my bench.

Lavine is a star in the making. He isn't a Gerald Green or Terrence Ross type. He can actually handle the ball at a high level.

We don't know about Mario fully. But most people believe he will be good. Even this year. He can shoot. We know that.

Shabazz has proven he can score and do it very efficiently on high percentages.

Terrence Jones is very good. Can do all sorts of things. From hitting threes, blocking shots, rebounding.

I don't know why people don't like Mason Plumlee. Go check out his numbers when he gest minutes. He's like a 18 and 12 guy. Very athletic. The USA team coaches sure like him.

Rubio can't shoot. Gordon is really young himself. Amir who? Seriously, I know who he is. He isn't that good.

Afflalo is ok and Lopez is ok, but not anything spectacular.


I like Danny Green, but really don't care for Rudy Gay at all. He doesn't help you win. That's why Memphis moved on without him.

Parsons is really good. He lost some ground from how the public views him, but just because he played with Monte Ellis who shot the ball a lot. He'll have a much better year this year. He can do a lot of things including shoot the ball very well.

Gobert and Aldridge are a really good combo. I really like it.

But like I said before, I think it comes down to who are the top alpha dogs. The best guy on the court is Anthony Davis, and there is no question to that. And then Kyrie is easily the best guard on the floor. Another bonified superstar. Teague is always a guy you say, man he is underrated. But you don't ever think he's one of the very best.
 
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How the **** has Hack made it this far with three complete pylons in his starting 5? A dude is making it to the Finals with ****ing Kevin Martin in the starting lineup?


Smh.
 
dalamon said:
How the **** has Hack made it this far with three complete pylons in his starting 5? A dude is making it to the Finals with ****ing Kevin Martin in the starting lineup?


Smh.
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Lol

Who are the 3 pylons?

You do know that Kevin Martin has a career 18 ppg average with multiple seasons averaging over 20? Right?
 
Hack said:
Lol

Who are the 3 pylons?

You do know that Kevin Martin has a career 18 ppg average with multiple seasons averaging over 20? Right?
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Pylons clearly refers to their defense.
 
Hack said:
Lol

Who are the 3 pylons?

You do know that Kevin Martin has a career 18 ppg average with multiple seasons averaging over 20? Right?
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He's also made it to the playoffs twice despite being 32 years of age. I wonder why.
 
Even better stat: Kevin Martin has started in one playoff game in his entire career


Hack is here starting him in the Final Four. Stew on that, y'all.
 
in 17 playoff games, Martin has averaged .388 from the field and .354 from 3.

Lmao, now factor in his defense.
 
dalamon said:
He's also made it to the playoffs twice despite being 32 years of age. I wonder why.
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Maybe it's because he played on crappy teams mpst his career.

Sacramento isn't exactly a place that produces playoff teams.


I'm not arguing that Martin is great. But he surely isn't a scrub. You can't be if you put up the number he has over his career. And he is the weakest link in the starting rotation. Not bad for being the fifth guy.
 
dalamon said:
Even better stat: Kevin Martin has started in one playoff game in his entire career


Hack is here starting him in the Final Four. Stew on that, y'all.
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These drafts suck balls anyway. I always have a great team, and I won one match up in three years. Jazzfanz are mostly a bunch of idiots if you ask me.
 
Hack said:
Maybe it's because he played on crappy teams mpst his career.

Sacramento isn't exactly a place that produces playoff teams.


I'm not arguing that Martin is great. But he surely isn't a scrub. You can't be if you put up the number he has over his career. And he is the weakest link in the starting rotation. Not bad for being the fifth guy.
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He is a Corey Maggette with worse production in the playoffs, and worse defense. I would rather start Joe Ingles at the 2.
 
I also have plenty of guard types that can fill in for Martin if he isn't getting it done.

Between, Mario, Lavine, Shabazz, and Martin, somebody is gonna step up
 
Siro said:
These drafts suck balls anyway. I always have a great team, and I won one match up in three years. Jazzfanz are mostly a bunch of idiots if you ask me.
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Did you seriously lose in the first round?
 
Hack said:
I also have plenty of guard types that can fill in for Martin if he isn't getting it done.

Between, Mario, Lavine, Shabazz, and Martin, somebody is gonna step up
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO.


Worst guard rotation probably in this entire tournament. A rookie, and three players who's team just got the 1st overall pick. You can't make this **** up.
 
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