Sanders starting to kick some HC... whatever

[RandyForRubio]

Your comments are a lot of unsubstantiated rhetoric. Economic growth is not binary. Many nations with narrowed income gaps manage to run extremely successful corporations with admirable growth rates. It just takes creativity. Narrowed income gaps are sustainable, as has been proven by many nations.

You have a very naive view of how worldwide economics work.

 

[Revolution 9]

Sanders will lose to Clinton, and we will suffer for it.

Bush vs Clinton either way we lose. Big money corporate sell outs.

 

[Harambe]

Sanders will lose to Clinton, and we will suffer for it.

Bush vs Clinton either way we lose. Big money corporate sell outs.

Fact.

 

[Stoked]

More and more Americans are getting tired of subsidizing the social programs of other western nations by providing for their defense. America is on the verge of following the example of the rest of the world. Be careful what you wish for.

I want America to stick by their allies but stop the slow expansion of said alliances completely. Then make said allies more responsible for their own and our joint protection. (Which is why I favor the proposed Japanese constitution revision to allow them to come to Americas defense in case we are attacked. Makes it a two way street).

We already have about 40 nations on military defense alliances.

 

[Stoked]

Sanders will lose to Clinton, and we will suffer for it.

Bush vs Clinton either way we lose. Big money corporate sell outs.

A Bush/Clinton choice is absolutely lose/lose.

We need better choices.

 

[♪alt13]

Food is as cheap as ever. And we have an unprecedented diversity and abundance of it. I can throw numbers at you, like how we're spending 9% of our income on food as opposed to 15% just 30 years ago, but a simple trip to the grocery store is sufficient to convince anyone. Half of the produce section is filled with fruits and vegs that I haven't even heard of. I just filled my fridge with fresh produce for about $25. The system that produced this abundance is the same that provides the "plethora of choice".

The wealth gap that leftists obsess over is mostly a product of advancing technology. A 100 billion company like 1970s Kodak employed 150k people, while a typical new tech company, like Facebook, employs only 5k. You can try to artificially reduce the gap by introducing wealth redistribution tactics, but I highly doubt they would actually improve standards of living for the vast majority of people any better than the gap-creating capitalist system. Additionally, the gap will continue to expand. What will you do when 90% of farmers jobs are replaced with robots in the next 20 years? Would you like to stifle the advance of technology in order to prolong the status quo? That's an astonishingly short-sighted view.

Bernie Sanders's view of economics is basically a bunch of populist slogans. Very few economists take him seriously, which makes it difficult for me to do so. I love his views on foreign policy and social justice, but his economic perspective is bunk.

We need to get the workweek back down to 40 hours. The 8 hour workday is disappearing for too many people and it has bad economic/quality of life consequences for the middle class.

Get rid of salary for employees making less than 60k
Make the 41st hour double time

 

[RandyForRubio]

It's clear where each of us stand. I'm just the one with enough balls to find out.

Sure, you have the balls to stand for economic principles that are doomed to fail. I guess if you wanna be proud of that then that's ok.

 

[RandyForRubio]

We need to get the workweek back down to 40 hours. The 8 hour workday is disappearing for too many people and it has bad economic/quality of life consequences for the middle class.

Get rid of salary for employees making less than 60k
Make the 41st hour double time

What do we do for managers/owners who have to work more than 40 hrs a week? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, it's just an honest question.

Honestly though, if I worked 40 hours or less I'd get bored. I'm weird though.

 

[Siro]

We need to get the workweek back down to 40 hours. The 8 hour workday is disappearing for too many people and it has bad economic/quality of life consequences for the middle class.

Get rid of salary for employees making less than 60k
Make the 41st hour double time

Good suggestions. In the long term though, we need stronger wealth redistribution measures. I know the common wisdom is that technology creates more employment opportunities than it eliminates. But evidence suggests that this hasn't been the case for the last couple of decades, and will never be the case again. I'm sure you've heard of futurologists taking about the "end of work". This is a legitimate issue that we will face well before the end of the century. We will get to the point where only the most skilled will have a place in the job market.

I've read many books that try to tackle the problem, my favorite among them is The Second Machine Age. But I am growing convinced that some kind of guaranteed income, as propose by Nixon, will necessarily be part of the solution.

 

[Harambe]

Sure, you have the balls to stand for economic principles that are doomed to fail. I guess if you wanna be proud of that then that's ok.

There is no guarantee Sander's policies will fail. Supporting what we have been doing over the last 50 years is guaranteeing failure for our future.

Given that situation, I'll be glad to take what you think is a long shot over a sure thing.

 

[franklin]

Get rid of salary for employees making less than 60k
Make the 41st hour double time

I agree with this on principle (except time and a half instead of double), but your premise:

We need to get the workweek back down to 40 hours. The 8 hour workday is disappearing for too many people and it has bad economic/quality of life consequences for the middle class.

is faulty. Leisure time in the USA has been slowly but steadily climbing since the 80's. I would provide a link but then CockRoach0 wouldn't have anything to cry about.

 

[RandyForRubio]

There is no guarantee Sander's policies will fail. Supporting what we have been doing over the last 50 years is guaranteeing failure for our future.

Given that situation, I'll be glad to take what you think is a long shot over a sure thing.

Care to find where I said what we're doing is working well? And even though it's not the best, I can guarantee its better than Sander's ideas. All it takes is a little common sense to see his economic policies are dangerously dumb.