Dwill quote - seriously?

[fairweather]

I see nothing inconsistent with what Deron said. Compared to most players of his caliber, he doesn't strike me as someone that needs a lot of attention. He wants to win and he lets his emotions show every once in a while, that's all. He's not the greatest leader in the world, but he's not the worst, either.

I do agree that we need another all star quality player. It's hard to attract them to Utah, though.

 

[Hitman]

I agree. But it will never happen. The league likes giving the advantage to big market teams. It's good for their bottom line. And that is all that they care about.

I think you are wrong here, look at what their biggest-market team did over the last few years - the New York Knicks unashamedly offered up a sub-standard product due to their merciless salary dumping in pursuit of LBJ's signature. They ended up with Amare and Felton instead, so they are at least decent this year, but their years of mediocrity could not have been good for the Knicks' bottom line. Would they have done that knowing they couldn't get either LBJ or Amare?

My other thoughts on this matter: There is also the effect the Douchision has on the "integrity" (term used under advisement) of the Draft. Cleveland tanked unmercilessly in order to give themselves the best chance at landing LBJ in the draft. Their reward is a single Finals appearance, the loss their star player for nothing except an effectively worthless trade exception, and a return to exactly where they were before his arrival, last-place mediocrity. And over the years, many, many other teams have had to endure the "Where will he go when his contract expires?" speculation with their star players. It happened with Duncan and the Spurs, it happened with the Cavs and LBJ and us and Bozzer and the Suns and Amare, etc, etc, this year its Melo, and we're also getting chatter already about CP3, DWill, Dwight Howard, etc, etc years before their contracts expire. Why are the sports pages filled with this stuff instead of the actual product on the floor?

The other thing the new rules will hopefully stop is this foolishness about trading players because of their contracts. Remember how Raef LaFrentz was always talked about as a valuable trade chip because of his contract, even though he hadn't played for years. We traded away Maynor just to get rid of Harpring's contract. Toronto hung onto Stojakovic for ages in case they could use his contract (as distinct from him) in a trade. Dampier's unique contract was the subject of so many articles over summer because IT was valuable even though he was worth so little as a player. We all know about AK's contract. And so on.

 

[JJ Rage]

Winning basketball games does not go hand in hand with wanting attention. Just because he said he doesn't like the attention doesn't mean he can't handle it. Dude was the 3rd overall pick after going to the National Championship game, he's one of the best point guards in the league, he's been to the playoffs and is a two-time all-star. He can handle attention just fine.

I realize a lot of people here are all doom and gloom about the state of the team, and I realize that people are placing blame on Deron for Sloan's departure and are already assuming that the guy has one foot out the door. I'm not saying that I think he's going to stay or even saying that he's not partially to blame for retiring a hall of fame coach. But cut the guy just a little bit of slack, stop picking apart every little tiny quote and trying to make a big deal out of it.

These quotes come from him fielding live questions, he's not trying to leave cryptic messages everywhere. He's a basketball player, not the ****ing Riddler.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Go back to only posting about Hayward.

 

[honz]

Let me be the first to say, please delete your account, udflyer.

 

[NotDeadYet]

Not surprised at all by DWill's comment; when he shared leadership with Boozer, Boozer was usually the guy talking with the media, not DWill. It's obvious from his manner at interviews DWill would rather not be talking to the media.
Also, not having someone to consistantly share the scoring burden with (again, Boozer was always option 1, right or wrong) combined with his burning desire to win are leading him into the quick-fix mentality of playing one-on-one basketball a-la Kobe and trying to do it all himself. His teammates simply need to step up their games. He is gonna need their help to get the Jazz turned around, plain and simple.

 

[Dread]

Stockton loved the spotlight.....right?

 

[udflyer]

Let me be the first to say, please delete your account, udflyer.

Where do you delete your account at ? I looked and cannot find it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Deron hates being in the spotlight when things are bad.

But what about when they're good?

 

[gregbroncs]

I think you are wrong here, look at what their biggest-market team did over the last few years - the New York Knicks unashamedly offered up a sub-standard product due to their merciless salary dumping in pursuit of LBJ's signature. They ended up with Amare and Felton instead, so they are at least decent this year, but their years of mediocrity could not have been good for the Knicks' bottom line. Would they have done that knowing they couldn't get either LBJ or Amare?

My other thoughts on this matter: There is also the effect the Douchision has on the "integrity" (term used under advisement) of the Draft. Cleveland tanked unmercilessly in order to give themselves the best chance at landing LBJ in the draft. Their reward is a single Finals appearance, the loss their star player for nothing except an effectively worthless trade exception, and a return to exactly where they were before his arrival, last-place mediocrity. And over the years, many, many other teams have had to endure the "Where will he go when his contract expires?" speculation with their star players. It happened with Duncan and the Spurs, it happened with the Cavs and LBJ and us and Bozzer and the Suns and Amare, etc, etc, this year its Melo, and we're also getting chatter already about CP3, DWill, Dwight Howard, etc, etc years before their contracts expire. Why are the sports pages filled with this stuff instead of the actual product on the floor?

The other thing the new rules will hopefully stop is this foolishness about trading players because of their contracts. Remember how Raef LaFrentz was always talked about as a valuable trade chip because of his contract, even though he hadn't played for years. We traded away Maynor just to get rid of Harpring's contract. Toronto hung onto Stojakovic for ages in case they could use his contract (as distinct from him) in a trade. Dampier's unique contract was the subject of so many articles over summer because IT was valuable even though he was worth so little as a player. We all know about AK's contract. And so on.

So what part was I wrong about in your opinion? Because I really wish but don't think what he suggested has any chance at happening.

And it's not even a question that the league wants the big market teams to succeed the most. Hell a few years ago they made a rule allowing teams out of a contract with regards to salary cap just so the Knicks could shed Allan Houston's salary.

That big market team is owned by terrible owners who hired some really bad GM's. The league tried to help them out and they still screwed it up. You can't fix stupid even when you try. Also they dumped salaries so they would be bad for 1 more year so that they could get better. Look at that it worked at least they are getting a little smarter.

I fully agree with your last 2 paragraphs. Guaranteed contracts in the NBA need to be gotten rid of. That would solve all of your problems in the last paragraph. A hard salary cap would solve most of the problems in your 2nd paragraph. I don't know if the NBA owner's will hold out for both of those things but they absolutely should. My point was I don't think the owner's really want to make the playing field even. When the big market teams are good they believe there is more money coming in from TV. Make the changes that should be made and all of the sudden it's an even playing field and the odds of having dynasties for their big markets go down drastically.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Hard Cap, Franchise Player, and 10,000,000 per year max salarys. Solves basically all the NBA's problems.

Guaranteed contracts are the NBA's biggest problem.

 

[PrinceJL]

To me this is good for the Jazz. Because he definitely has less spotlight on him here than say if he went to the Laker's or Knicks. Dwill is not the best personality to have as the leader of your team. You need an outgoing guy that has respect of the players and can also communicate with them.

That said he can still be the #1 guy on a team if you have another 1A guy that can be more of the leader off of the court and in the locker room.

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Guaranteed contracts are the NBA's biggest problem.

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