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Jazz Spazz said:
Specifically if 3 mods find it to be offensive.
Generally, if most of the Jazzfanz possible audience could find it to be offensive, that would be generally offensive.

If you feel like you want to come as close to the line as possible, then you are doing it wrong and should be willing to accept any moderation that comes of it.

The rule is general, not vague, for a reason. Jason can't write out and list every possible thing that is offensive. At some point you have to make a judgement call, just as the group of moderators will have to make a judgement call at some point. In this specific case many items in the thread were excessively and clearly sexual innuendos.

Keep in mind the audience is not only posters, but readers. Jason wants this to be a family site, and we as moderators have to assume there could be children reading and perusing this site.

Does this help a little?
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Not really at all. You just reposted the rules in different words. How should I know what you find offensive? If you're going to punish people for what you find offensive, it might be a decent idea to say what it is you find offensive.

Or maybe people could just be adults and not go into threads they don't like.
 
Howard said:
Not really at all. You just reposted the rules in different words. How should I know what you find offensive? If you're going to punish people for what you find offensive, it might be a decent idea to say what it is you find offensive.

Or maybe people could just be adults and not go into threads they don't like.
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Or people could just be adults and not post things that are against the rules if they are unable to understand what words in the rules mean.

Seriously, if you are unable to tell the difference between something that is excessively sexual in nature, and something that is not then buy yourself a private forum, or join one of the others that are going and post your stuff there.
 
Gameface said:
Please.

I got the response. Let's see if my summary is accurate?

The thread in question got a lot of reports. It was a PITA to deal with all the reports. Some of the content was borderline. The mods have not indicated what causes one submission to be borderline, one to be acceptable and one to be inappropriate. What they do is close the thread.

There was a secret vote amongst an undisclosed number of mods that was unanimous. End of story. No further details need be discussed.

When people are unhappy the mods insult them and make threats.

Did I miss anything?
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Yeah, I've thrown a few insults here. However, this was the very first thing posted when this issue came up. I mean the very first thing:

Someone call whine-1-1 for our resident pot head.

Was that necessary? If it was fair enough, but does that further the cause of calm, rational discussion?
 
Having been on both sides of this question, I can honestly say there will never be a resolution. What is offensive and objectionable varies from person to person. I cannot think of a good way to positively define it.
From the outside looking in, would I have voted to close that thread? Probably not. But I don't know how many reports that thread created. In general, I don't think threads should be closed just because they are a PITA, but obviously others do.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
click the FAQ link at the top of the page and read the rules.
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Basic Rules

As was stated when you signed up for a Jazzfanz account, you have agreed to “not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.” Those are the Basic Rules. If you violate the Basic Rules, you have violated the terms of your membership and Jazzfanz has the right to suspend or ban your account after even a single violation.

Notice how I point out 'vulgar', there's a lot of that going on lately.

#StayClassy
 
Jamezz said:
Basic Rules

As was stated when you signed up for a Jazzfanz account, you have agreed to “not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.” Those are the Basic Rules. If you violate the Basic Rules, you have violated the terms of your membership and Jazzfanz has the right to suspend or ban your account after even a single violation.

Notice how I point out 'vulgar', there's a lot of that going on lately.

#StayClassy
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I agree, #StayClassy.

Feel free to report any of the vulgar items you find offensive.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
Or people could just be adults and not post things that are against the rules if they are unable to understand what words in the rules mean.

Seriously, if you are unable to tell the difference between something that is excessively sexual in nature, and something that is not then buy yourself a private forum, or join one of the others that are going and post your stuff there.
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How many months was that thread going? How many "Likes" and pos reps were dished out by mods during those months?

Forgive the humble souls who have a hard time figuring out what is/isn't acceptable at times.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
Or people could just be adults and not post things that are against the rules if they are unable to understand what words in the rules mean.

Seriously, if you are unable to tell the difference between something that is excessively sexual in nature, and something that is not then buy yourself a private forum, or join one of the others that are going and post your stuff there.
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How can I follow the rules if they're at the blind discretion of people who won't tell us what they are?

Or maybe you could just tell us what it is you want and dont want. Seems simple.

What doesn't make sense is a 2 year old thread getting closed down, when nothing has changed. That seems weird, that just the other day you decided it broke the rules, when for the last two years it hadn't. Good thing we have consistent rules though.
 
TroutBum said:
How many months was that thread going? How many "Likes" and pos reps were dished out by mods during those months?

Forgive the humble souls who have a hard time figuring out what is/isn't acceptable at times.
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No clue. I have maybe reported one or two things in my entire time here. I generally ignore the crap I think is stupid and/or offensive.

Now that I am a mod, as has been pointed out many many times in the last 2 days by posters, it's now my job. I need to moderate to ensure the rules are being followed.

I'm sure at some point of my moderating career I will decide part of my job to start reporting stuff. As of right now it's just not a huge priority of mine.


Also, just because some threads were rarely perused my mods, or even read and liked by other mods does not mean it is not in violation of the rules. If a poster decides to report the entire thread, or specific posts in the thread, then it is our obligation to take action. I just got here, but it sounds like there have been items through the course of time that are reported from that thread. It is reasonable to me that if a thread is a constant pain point with regular issues, that it might be best to take the tree out at the base rather than trimming off the leaves one at a time.
 
Howard said:
How can I follow the rules if they're at the blind discretion of people who won't tell us what they are?

Or maybe you could just tell us what it is you want and dont want. Seems simple.

What doesn't make sense is a 2 year old thread getting closed down, when nothing has changed. That seems weird, that just the other day you decided it broke the rules, when for the last two years it hadn't. Good thing we have consistent rules though.
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This is probably why someone told you to just not post in a frustrated/snarky manner. You are being dense, and it appears to be on purpose. FYI

It's the same thing over and over with what appears to be no real attempts to understand, but to argue.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
Or people could just be adults and not post things that are against the rules if they are unable to understand what words in the rules mean.

Seriously, if you are unable to tell the difference between something that is excessively sexual in nature, and something that is not then buy yourself a private forum, or join one of the others that are going and post your stuff there.
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are you exfoliating years of petty angst right now?? Feel fresh? or something else?
 
Jazz Spazz said:
This is probably why someone told you to just not post in a frustrated/snarky manner. You are being dense, and it appears to be on purpose. FYI

It's the same thing over and over with what appears to be no real attempts to understand, but to argue.
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something else. For sure.
 
at least he had me to trigger his repressed pride and righteous anger every now and then. Phew, it felt good to let it out. All built up. But after a while, that wasn't enough. He had to go up a level, and get a stiffer shot of justice. Oh yeah! Boardwide!
 
NAOS said:
jazz spazz has tried real hard over the years to seem laid back. Real hard.
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Yep, been a lifelong goal of mine. Convince everyone on jazzfanz that I'm laid back. Then get voted in as a mod, then take over the tri state area.
 
NAOS said:
at least he had me to trigger his repressed pride and righteous anger every now and then. Phew, it felt good to let it out. All built up. But after a while, that wasn't enough. He had to go up a level, and get a stiffer shot of justice. Oh yeah! Boardwide!
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Jazz Spazz said:
This is probably why someone told you to just not post in a frustrated/snarky manner. You are being dense, and it appears to be on purpose. FYI

It's the same thing over and over with what appears to be no real attempts to understand, but to argue.
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Ok. You can't/wont answer my questions, and I'm the dense one. Btw, nobody told me not to be snarky, not sure where you got that from.

We still haven't gotten one good answer on how a 2 year old thread full of the same stuff as always broke the rules now, but not two years ago. Seems very inconsistent to me. Shocking that could happen with such thorough and obvious rules.
 
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