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The Jazz FO told Corbin to develop a defensive identity...

heck korver in atlanta is playing better defense now then al jefferson ever played.

also if in atlanta krover started playing defense whats the xcuse for not playing it under corbin
 
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Gameface said:
His assignment was not to win. His assignment was to develop a defensive identity. He didn't get it and did everything he could to get enough offense going to win. He was stuck in the mindset that winning was the goal no matter what. We were trying to tank and he ****ed that up. He was supposed to lose while developing the team's defensive identity. He didn't do what he was asked to do.

I firmly believe that if we had had Quin during those Corbin years we would have lost more games and been further ahead on our defensive development. And the FO would have been perfectly happy with that and wouldn't have fired Quin when they fired Ty.

That's what so many people seem to have a hard time getting. Corbin was not set up for failure. He was set up to tank and asked to develop a defensive identity at the same time. He absolutely rejected that assignment and tried to win by whatever means necessary and sacrificed the team's defensive development in the process. He was given a free pass and he turned it into a no-win situation. That's just how rigid his mindset was. He couldn't accept what the FO wanted him to do, it was too far outside his parameters for success vs failure.
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Corbin has been selfish and wanted to win games to stay as much as possible in the league as head coach. You can't blame him for it.
The Jazz made the mistake to give him the bench after Sloan departure. At the end of the day the Jazz threw in the trash three seasons with Corbin.
 
franklin said:
If IF he can pull his head out of his *** and build an offense. This has been pathetic.
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If the FO asks him to focus on that I'm sure, based on his track record, he'll respond by delivering a top offense.
 
Gameface said:
If the FO asks him to focus on that I'm sure, based on his track record, he'll respond by delivering a top offense.
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He can only do one thing at a time? There is no excuse for his college ball offense. It's horrible. He's misusing just about everyone except Hood. He couldn't create anything for Jeremy Evans. Burke has turned into hot trash under his tutelage. Favors isn't getting the looks he deserves. Hawyard is random ping pong balls at this point... Is anyone in the league used more inconsistently than Hayward???

I would take just about any coach to build an offense over QS at this point. Last season was excusable over circumstance but why is he continuing to lay a deuce on the offensive end with what I can only call incoherent bull ****? There is no rhyme or reason to anything he is doing. None.
 
Hack said:
So if Gobert weren't able to play, would the Jazz have same defensive identity?
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They would be better than they were with Corbin. Is Neto starting if Corbin is the coach? Because he is starting now because his defense is superior to Burke.
 
Jazzfanz is funny.

All I said in response to the thread and Gameface's point, was that Gobert made it a lot easier for Quin to come up with a defensive identity, which is 100% true. I haven't been trying to argue Corbin is a good coach, or Quin is a bad one. I love Quin and hated Corbin just the same as most people here.

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Hack said:
Jazzfanz is funny.

All I said in response to the thread and Gameface's point, was that Gobert made it a lot easier for Quin to come up with a defensive identity, which is 100% true. I haven't been trying to argue Corbin is a good coach, or Quin is a bad one. I love Quin and hated Corbin just the same as most people here.

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It's a message board. All topics flow, change and adapt more and more as the thread goes on.
 
Hack said:
Jazzfanz is funny.

All I said in response to the thread and Gameface's point, was that Gobert made it a lot easier for Quin to come up with a defensive identity, which is 100% true. I haven't been trying to argue Corbin is a good coach, or Quin is a bad one. I love Quin and hated Corbin just the same as most people here.

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My response to this is that when Gobert sits the defense is still better than it was at anytime under Corbin, while using essentially the same players. So yes Gobert and to a slightly lesser extent Exum made life easier for Snyder at the end of last year, but the defensive identity extended beyond just when they were on the floor.
 
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