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The Jazz FO told Corbin to develop a defensive identity...
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Hotdog
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Don't make me neg you
Have at it. Whatever
gregbroncs
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My response to this is that when Gobert sits the defense is still better than it was at anytime under Corbin, while using essentially the same players. So yes Gobert and to a slightly lesser extent Exum made life easier for Snyder at the end of last year, but the defensive identity extended beyond just when they were on the floor.
The defense improved every month last year BEFORE the all-star break. Quin was building a defensive identity even with Kanter and Burke. Of course, at thte break he made the adjustment to get the team to the next level.
And yeah, Gobert makes a difference. He will improve the defensive metrics on any team that gives him minutes. But what if Quin's focus had been on offense? Kanter would have been the more vital piece. Gobert would have a hard time getting minutes and there's no way the Jazz would have traded an offensive piece (no pun intended) like Kanter to start a player with very little offense.
So the FO asks for defense and Quin gives them defense. There are times still this year when the Jazz can't seem to score. That's still a problem, but Quin doesn't panic and think his *** is on the line because his team isn't winning. He sticks to his guns and keeps the overall focus on defense.
And I hear people talking about how we need more offense. That's true, obviously. But you do not sacrifice something your team is elite at so that you can be mediocre at both offense and defense. If you have a team that's elite on defense you do everything you can to remain elite at defense while improving the offense enough to allow the defense to win you games.
And yeah, Gobert makes a difference. He will improve the defensive metrics on any team that gives him minutes. But what if Quin's focus had been on offense? Kanter would have been the more vital piece. Gobert would have a hard time getting minutes and there's no way the Jazz would have traded an offensive piece (no pun intended) like Kanter to start a player with very little offense.
So the FO asks for defense and Quin gives them defense. There are times still this year when the Jazz can't seem to score. That's still a problem, but Quin doesn't panic and think his *** is on the line because his team isn't winning. He sticks to his guns and keeps the overall focus on defense.
And I hear people talking about how we need more offense. That's true, obviously. But you do not sacrifice something your team is elite at so that you can be mediocre at both offense and defense. If you have a team that's elite on defense you do everything you can to remain elite at defense while improving the offense enough to allow the defense to win you games.
You know what? At the end of the day Quin was still starting Kanter over Gobert when he was here. It wasn't until the FRONT OFFICE made the move to trade Kanter that we really made the next step. If the trade doesnt happen does keep trying Kanter the whole year? Maybe the FO was telling Quin to keep starting Kanter?
If the FO was asking for defense (above all else, all that matters), why didn't Quin start Rudy from day 1?
If the FO was asking for defense (above all else, all that matters), why didn't Quin start Rudy from day 1?
Oh, that's all well and good but at least he understood that the Jazz "just needed to get better." He was able to elaborate that very clearly when interviewed.
They were still trying to make something of Kanter. If they had been able to get Kanter to play decent defense along with his offense that would have been a very nice team. Honestly, Quin's first real opportunity to move Gobert into the starting lineup came when Kanter was injured and Rudy started to dominate in Kanter's absence. Maybe Snyder should have made the switch right then but they were still trying to make things work for both of them. But really that set the stage for Kanter to realize his days were numbered and he demanded a trade.
NAOS
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I think the answers to all of these questions are implicit in Joe Ingles' commentary
gregbroncs
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Maybe he was trying to keep Kanter engaged in the games? But what I believe though it will never be reported is that Kanter was told he was going to the bench, then he demanded a trade. It's the only thing that makes sense to me with the timing of his trade demand. Also Kanter had steadily been losing minutes to Gobert.