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Terror attack on US soil with 12 casualties!

Jamezz said:
For one I can't believe how people jump on the Christian labeling so fast, as if that murderer was a true Christian. Ridiculous.
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....correctomundo! Not a true Christian at all! Claiming to be a Christian....and actually following the teachings of Christ are two different things! Here's a good scripture to use on that!

(Matthew 7:21-27) 21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these sayings of mine and does them will be like a discreet man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded on the rock. 26 Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house, and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”

(Matthew 7:20) 20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.
 
Jamezz said:
For one I can't believe how people jump on the Christian labeling so fast, as if that murderer was a true Christian. Ridiculous.
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Would you apply that same metric to Muslim terrorists? Or is it only Christians who can claim such religious purity?
 
Zombie said:
Would you apply that same metric to Muslim terrorists? Or is it only Christians who can claim such religious purity?
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I haven't read the Quran but if it also condemns murder in the same manner than the Bible does than sure, I have no problem in applying the same metric. There could well be fake Muslims as there are fake Christians. As a believer in Christ I was offended by the label "Christian terrorist", that's why I was sticking to the Christian side of things. There can't be such thing as a 'Christian terrorist', it's a ridiculous paradox brought up to attack Christianity. There are Muslims trying to fight ISIS back in Iraq for example and I wish them the best of luck against those ********.
 
No True Scotsman eh? I think if a persons religious beliefs motivate their violence we should call them out on it. Regardless of what belief that is.
 
Zombie said:
No True Scotsman eh? I think if a persons religious beliefs motivate their violence we should call them out on it. Regardless of what belief that is.
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Again, I don't think it's fair to call out an entire group for the actions of a few. I look after individuals.
 
Jamezz said:
I haven't read the Quran but if it also condemns murder in the same manner than the Bible does than sure, I have no problem in applying the same metric. There could well be fake Muslims as there are fake Christians. As a believer in Christ I was offended by the label "Christian terrorist", that's why I was sticking to the Christian side of things. There can't be such thing as a 'Christian terrorist', it's a ridiculous paradox brought up to attack Christianity. There are Muslims trying to fight ISIS back in Iraq for example and I wish them the best of luck against those ********.
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Yeah! No one has ever waged war in the name of Christianity... oh wait...


never mind.
 
Archie Moses said:
Except, the peaceful members of Islam are irrelevant. The religion is being called out because, well, it's violent.
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This same logic can be applied to gun owners. The peaceful gun owners are irrelevant. Gun owners are being called out because of all the violence.
 
Archie Moses said:
Except, the peaceful members of Islam are irrelevant. The religion is being called out because, well, it's violent.
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Cute. Last I checked, Christianity is unequivocally more violent.

You stick to your scholarly-shared Facebook posts. Let the big boys deal with facts, history, and sophisticated analysis.
 
dalamon said:
Cute. Last I checked, Christianity is unequivocally more violent.

You stick to your scholarly-shared Facebook posts. Let the big boys deal with facts, history, and sophisticated analysis.
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Honestly I see this as biased as Archies post. Both have historically lead to huge amounts of violence. To the point of being unable to say who is the ultimate "bad guy".

They can both inspire great good in the world. But both can be interpreted in ways to inspire great violence and evil.

Your second line made me LOL because you did the same thing Archie did with your first line.

Why did you link Joe and Archie's posts? Joe was disagreeing with Archie. Did you miss something or did I?
 
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