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Any theories for bad Jazz performances with plenty of rest?

Stifle Tower said:
Under talented.
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I wouldn't say under talented so much as there is a lot of young talent developing in the league right now. It seems a new group of stars is taking over. I couldn't believe how much Carmelo has sunk -- he always sucked to me -- but you could see he is really struggling. Probably part of it has to do with his prima donna attitude, but he looked slow and disinterested out there.
 
dalamon said:
you're defining the relative boundaries of 'consistent' subjectively as well. "only consistent player on the team" asserts his consistency relative to other players on the team, and doesnt necessarily equate to this non-definable label of what 'consistency' concretely is
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wrong. And LOL. You're stretching because of pride -- which should embarrass you.

It'll be interesting to hear you reflect on this period of your life one day. What has happened to make you dumber and more impressionable? I've rarely seen your trajectory; have you had any head trauma that I wasn't around to hear about?
 
dalamon said:
wish we had the consistency of bulldogs Danny Green and Demarre Carroll on this team tbh
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I'll take Carroll right now. Green will bounce back and you know it. Do you have any advanced stats on their defense so far?

How are Tibor's unreal shooting mechanics? Are you keeping tabs on him in Idaho? tia.
 
NAOS said:
wrong. And LOL. You're stretching because of pride -- which should embarrass you.

It'll be interesting to hear you reflect on this period of your life one day. What has happened to make you dumber and more impressionable? I've rarely seen your trajectory; have you had any head trauma that I wasn't around to hear about?
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:rolleyes:
 
NAOS said:
I'll take Carroll right now. Green will bounce back and you know it. Do you have any advanced stats on their defense so far?

How are Tibor's unreal shooting mechanics? Are you keeping tabs on him in Idaho? tia.
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Game. Blouses.
 
is there a starting guard in the NBA shooting a worse %age than Danny Green right now?

Anyone in the mood for a laugh, search up his stats. I'll warm you up: 32.4% from the field.
 
dalamon said:
you're defining the relative boundaries of 'consistent' subjectively as well. "only consistent player on the team" asserts his consistency relative to other players on the team, and doesnt necessarily equate to this non-definable label of what 'consistency' concretely is
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Cy's original statement was that Hayward is consistent, not that he's the most consistent player on the team. The first statement is not undefinable. It means his performances are consistent relative to one another. My impulse, just from watching him play over the years, was to disagree. He's had plenty of ups and downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes on a few games stretche where he's producing well below his averages (specially his shooting) at any point in the season. Upon reflection though, I think that's probably the case with most NBA players, and I probably notice more with Hayward because of his prominent role on the team I watch the most.
 
dalamon said:
is there a starting guard in the NBA shooting a worse %age than Danny Green right now?

Anyone in the mood for a laugh, search up his stats. I'll warm you up: 32.4% from the field.
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The scary **** is that it's not even hurting the Spurs. When he gets right, they might be better than the Warriors.
 
Siro said:
Cy's original statement was that Hayward is consistent, not that he's the most consistent player on the team. The first statement is not undefinable. It means his performances are consistent relative to one another. My impulse, just from watching him play over the years, was to disagree. He's had plenty of ups and downs, and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes on a few games stretche where he's producing well below his averages (specially his shooting) at any point in the season. Upon reflection though, I think that's probably the case with most NBA players, and I probably notice more with Hayward because of his prominent role on the team I watch the most.
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that's a nice qualifier at the end there, basing your opinion on the team you see the most.

I still say that consistency is Hayward's main hurdle at this point in his career.
 
NAOS said:
fixed
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A genuine 12 year old in every facet


So he's hitting lots of free throws in Idaho?
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does it matter? There's an extensive list of non-NBA players with great strokes. This might be too difficult to wrap your limited brain around.



Dude is the best FT-shooter in practice. Pls come up with a list of centers in the NBA who would lead their team similarly in practice. TIA #unreal
 
NAOSpergers trying to hang wit da Dalamob just take the L bruh u stand no chance
 
dalamon said:
A genuine 12 year old in every facet




does it matter? There's an extensive list of non-NBA players with great strokes. This might be too difficult to wrap your limited brain around.



Dude is the best FT-shooter in practice. Pls come up with a list of centers in the NBA who would lead their team similarly in practice. TIA #unreal
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It certainly matters whether those unreal mechanics are unreal while the clock is ticking. Only a dumbass thinks otherwise.

dalamon said:
NAOSpergers trying to hang wit da Dalamob just take the L bruh u stand no chance
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you're way past your peak, kid. Your confidence is sad.
 
NAOS said:
how he's gotten his numbers has shifted from game to game. Pretty dramatically sometimes. He'll be ice cold from range and rim-running all game, then he'll heat up from range and look for his shots from out there, then he'll disappear altogether for a half. Being consistent can't be proven by scoring statistics because you can score in a variety of ways (i.e. you can score inconsistently). On what other basics do you need a refresher?

The basic eye test disproves the Hayward Is Consistent hypothesis. He's an important player for us. But he is inconsistent enough that any team led by him (at this point in his career) will be an inconsistent team. Right now, a lot of his teammates are adjusting themselves to what is working for him, rather than knowing what they'll do because they know how he's going to get what he's going to get. Big difference. I'm hoping Favors has more and more influence.
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This did actually give me a good laugh
 
fgcamel said:
This did actually give me a good laugh
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I love how the hivemind is now univocally in Hayward's jockstrap and ready to misunderstand the smallest bit of intelligent critique. I haven't claimed that he isn't our most important scorer, I haven't claimed that he isn't our leader, I haven't claimed that he hasn't been great lately. The emphasis is on lately. I honestly can't believe I'm having a hard time in a discussion about Hayward's consistency. Is he getting better in this facet? Probably. Does his career show measurable inconsistency? Yes. One word answer.
 
NAOS said:
It certainly matters whether those unreal mechanics are unreal while the clock is ticking. Only a dumbass thinks otherwise.



you're way past your peak, kid. Your confidence is sad.
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You're a pure moron if you think that Pleiss isn't getting burn because his mechanics are changing.


#taketheL
 
dalamon said:
You're a pure moron if you think that Pleiss isn't getting burn because his mechanics are changing.


#taketheL
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you're going to have to clarify the ridiculous way you're slanting this argument. So, his mechanics are unreal during practice and which other times when an NBA clock isn't ticking?
 
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