Joe Bagadonuts
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I could count the number of Babe posts that I truly believe I understand on no fingers. Either he is many, many times smarter than me, or he is crazy.
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I called him a conspiracy enthusiast. He counters that I'm the enthusiast, because the real conspiracy is being perpetrated by Clinton and others in what is usually referred to as the New World Order. The rest is sarcastically mocking my confidence in science and its ability to solve our problems and improve our lives. He then implies that in reality, this materialist approach is a cynical plot to direct the world to continue to benefit the elite, while suppressing dissent from the freedom-loving, god-fearing, inherent-human-rights-believing, patriots like Babe.
Babe isn't that hard to understand if you're familiar with his beliefs.
The UN array of programs, goals, objectives. . . the "New World Order" can hardly be called a conspiracy, because it's all written down in public documents which millions of people accept as the right way to go in managing planet earth.
It's only a "conspiracy" in the eyes of ignoramuses who know nothing about it. However, the media doesn't discuss it much, and a lot of conservatives are ignoramuses, for sure.
We truly enlightened souls who have joined the great quest for the better world must necessarily use some discretion in our public expressions, to avoid too much criticism from the great unwashed and uninformed bottomfeeder elements of our society.
Included in that program, since the founding of the UN, is the program to remove all private weapons from the hands of individuals, and specifying the military weaponry to be allowed under the supervision of governance personnel. This official arming of trusted elements of society will keep the military provisioners profitable, and the use of those weapons in an endless succession of "Bowery Wars", conducted with supervision from the highest echelons of the most important and wisest of mankind, will help to keep human population under appropriate control, and might possibly avert the necessity of Prince Philip, the Queen's Consort, being reincarnated as a deadly plague to nobly serve the great cause of reducing human population to the sustainable level of about 500 million worldwide.
And when these goals are achieved, there will be vast corridors of primeval wilderness teeming with abundant wildlife, and a flourishing Royal Hunting concession, which I intend to supervise.
It will be wonderful. I couldn't imagine a better world for our future.
philosophers who have achieved some recognition if not followings on the college level have gone after the foundations of human societies. . . . critically as well as empirically. . .
Ambrose Bierce defined "liberty" as freedom from restraint in a handful of modes of thought, fashion, or conduct while being held to rigid compliance in innumerable social, legal, or intellectual conventions. We're pretty happy with our little calling cards that announce how good we are. We're such conformists at heart. Compliance is a wonderful thing, it allows us to justify what we have done, to live above criticism, to claim respect and honor. . .
Our American founders wrestled with the issue, and found God a convenient claim for higher authority than the King of England. Today's conservatives resort to "God" in a similar vein, claiming "God" is a higher authority than the government. But the basic idea is the same. We want to comply with a standard of authority. We want to be compliant, "good", by some understandable measurement.
Siro, you use "Science" as a placeholder in your life, to fill that exact same place, to fill that basic human drive. Science is your God, your government. You're no better than the most rudimentary hayseed in the hills of Tennessee. You need to be compliant, just like the rest of us. It's only a matter of rhetorical design, an imaginary virtue, however you label it.
But hey, when there is a real force afoot on the earth, people vested with real power to throw the noncompliants into the hoosegawh, I'm with the guvmint. All in.
Siro could you please translate this in plain/simple English? I fear if I ask Babe he'll make it even more confusing for me.. LOL ..
In broad rhetorical terms, asking Siro to translate babe is like asking Satan to translate the Bible.
For example, in the previous Siro translation of babe, Siro literally gurgles. . . think of blood burbling up from the lungs into the vocal chords choking off the feeble attempt to form a syllable. . . .
where, to put it succinctly he could have said he is merely an enthusiast for global governance, though he considers it prudent to deny the fact.
In right wingnut terms, folks who fancy globalism are disavowing their real passion, to keep people from laughing out loud at their schemes.
thus, Siro is the conspiracy enthusiast. Though I am now joining the cause, because, hey, I'm smart enough to make it my own program.
David Rockefeller, step aside. babe is taking over. Siro, bow to the new megalomaniacal master of the human race. you've been babed.
Not true. I explicitly stated on multiple occasions that I am for a level of global governance. There is nothing to deny. I see little value in your philosophy of radical individualism, and a ton of value in the economic and political interdependence movement that has swept the globe over the past century.
Then can you translate it for me?
Let's focus on the simple stuff.
The UN program calls for the elimination of firearms from individual ownership/use, and the gradual emplacement of prescribed soldiers to keep the peace.
Who are those soldiers gonna point their guns at?
I went on a rant about population optimums bandied around in the right circles, in the range of 100 M to 500M. Who is gonna pick the approved list?
But to be sure, I want the Royal hunting concession. So I'm In.
You really believe those ridiculous paranoid fantasies about a global genocide to cull 90% of the world's population for the sake of environmentalist? Get real.
No, I really believe there are nutjob folks hanging out in all the right places who wish they could solve the world's problems their way.
talk is cheap, but it takes money and influence to make it happen. And some of those nutjobs have some money and some influence, though I am sure most of the people in the room know they're just nutjobs with money and influence, but not enough.
Having the composure to laugh at such things is a measure of one's sanity. Knowing when someone else is "laughting" is an indicator of good sense.
Little folks like you who take the world all too seriously end up just being used, all too often. Your ideals or principles just get manipulated for somebody else's purposes. Yah gotta learn to dance to the music, but it really only works if you can laugh while you do. It sets you free. Well, in a degree or two, anyway./
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Sounds cool, doe.