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Majority of Utahns wants to scrap state’s monopoly on booze

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https://www.sltrib.com/news/3436742-155/majority-of-utahns-wants-to-scrap

In the survey, conducted for The Salt Lake Tribune and Hinckley Institute of Politics, 57 percent of respondents were in favor of liquor privatization, while 34 percent wanted to keep the current state-run monopoly in place. Nine percent were undecided.

When religious affiliations are considered, 45 percent of Mormons — who believe in abstention from alcohol — were in favor of privatization, while 46 percent were opposed, according to the survey. Conversely, 75 percent of non-Mormons wanted private sales of liquor, compared with 18 percent who didn't.

Let's get this done! Who wants to start the ballot initiative?
 
I'm for it. I want state control of booze to end. Absolutely.
 
I think customer service will be a pro. As it is the state run liquor store isn't geared toward customer service, although you can get decent service from time to time.

Cold beer would be another big pro.

Possibly getting beers not currently available. Not sure that would go hand-in-hand with privatization, but it could.

Stocking based on consumer demand. The centralized ordering system has been terrible.

Cons, I don't think it will greatly increase locations as I assume the current zoning regulations will remain in effect.

The state run stores actually have good selection. I've bought stuff in the boarder towns and they just have a bunch of the most standard stuff, especially beer. I looked for sake in Evanston and Wendover and they either had none or the most generic type of gekkeikan.

Prices will not go down, they might even go up. I'm sure the state will continue to take a huge slice.

And this might not matter to many people, but there is a certain hypocrisy in opposing the use of alcohol and running the stores that provide it.
 
I actually don't mind the state liquor stores that much. They should just start selling weed there as well.
 
It's dumb. St. George can't get a Trader Joe's because of it. It's stupid you can't buy a bottle of freaking wine while at the grocery store.
The 3.2% needs to go away too. How dumb. Okay, bartender, I was going to order a beer but I guess I will just take some tequila instead.
 
I am currently making progress working on an exception for a resort hotel we are looking to build. As long as you are a guest of the hotel and ordering drinks at the hotel, you don't need to order food.
And that's taken two years just to get them to seriously listen to the logic.
 
I also hate how you cannot have some drinks and stuff ordered online delivered to Utah. The liquor laws in Utah are terrible.
 
How about they stay open past 7 o'clock, and have more than 2 serving 600,000 residents of the Provo-Orem metro. I rarely go to the LQ because it's a huge pain in the ***.

Lucky for us in the SL valley they stay open until 10pm.

And while we have a few around any pre-holiday shopping day is ****ing bananas.

I'd hope if they went private then we could buy wine at Trader Joe's and liquor at Costco, but I doubt that's what privatization would actually mean. I figure it'd be the same 4%abv limit at retail stores and on draft beer, and private liquor/wine/"strong" beer stores.

Personally what I'd like to see the most is dropping the 4%abv (3.2%abw... the scale that is never ever used except to describe "utah" beer) restriction.
 
Lucky for us in the SL valley they stay open until 10pm.

And while we have a few around any pre-holiday shopping day is ****ing bananas.

I'd hope if they went private then we could buy wine at Trader Joe's and liquor at Costco, but I doubt that's what privatization would actually mean. I figure it'd be the same 4%abv limit at retail stores and on draft beer, and private liquor/wine/"strong" beer stores.

Personally what I'd like to see the most is dropping the 4%abv (3.2%abw... the scale that is never ever used except to describe "utah" beer) restriction.

The one here is always clean, fast and friendly. Nice overall selection as well. But the hours and lack of cold choices is a joke.
 
Lucky for us in the SL valley they stay open until 10pm.

And while we have a few around any pre-holiday shopping day is ****ing bananas.

I'd hope if they went private then we could buy wine at Trader Joe's and liquor at Costco, but I doubt that's what privatization would actually mean. I figure it'd be the same 4%abv limit at retail stores and on draft beer, and private liquor/wine/"strong" beer stores.

Personally what I'd like to see the most is dropping the 4%abv (3.2%abw... the scale that is never ever used except to describe "utah" beer) restriction.

I would like them to make exceptions to the law against selling alcohol on state land. It would be cool when they finally rebuild the south stands at Rice Eccles if they did a 21 and over section with beer. Football is better with beer, it just is.
 
Not that I'm against privatization of liquor sales in Utah (I am very much for it)... but one Con that isn't being mentioned much is the $151 million of profit these stores generate for the State.
If that goes away, it hurts. That's not a small chunk of change.
 
What are the pros and cons?

If you're a real Statist and a Progressive Democrat, you might think it's the government's business to regulate soda pop, too. Think of the obesity and diabetes we all have to pay for outta the State purse. . . uhh. . . the collective asset pool.

Since I don't like any more government than is needed to keep the British outta Utah, I'm just pissed that Rio Tinto can own mines in Utah, and consider the government good for nothing at all.

State of Utah should not be allowed to run any business, or make any law about what people wanna eat, drink, smoke, or swim in.
 
You know in Utah, if alcohol sales were privatized, someone will come in and open up an incredibly awesome store. The various microbrews are a testament to this. Even the Smith's in Mesquite puts any Utah State Liquor store to shame.

In St. George, going to the liquor store feels like a profiling experiment. There's this big brute who lords a corner and isn't shy about giving you the hairy-eye as you peruse. You see a good sum of tax dollars parked in front of these stores in the form of an undercover car, or a Charger- sitting there doing nothing while some asshat from the police department gawks at customers in civilian clothing. It's just there to remind you that you willingly participating in an indulgence that the state does not like.

Their big thing here is trying to catch people buying liquor when they've already drank, regardless if they drove there or not. The cop will stand there and literally bag your bottles. I saw a guy that was acting completely normal (may have exhibited characteristics aesthetically that he had been drinking), get his order snatched, told to leave, and subsequently followed by Mr. Liquor Store Security. If privatization happens, this stuff means less control in this environment.
 
You know in Utah, if alcohol sales were privatized, someone will come in and open up an incredibly awesome store. The various microbrews are a testament to this. Even the Smith's in Mesquite puts any Utah State Liquor store to shame.

In St. George, going to the liquor store feels like a profiling experiment. There's this big brute who lords a corner and isn't shy about giving you the hairy-eye as you peruse. You see a good sum of tax dollars parked in front of these stores in the form of an undercover car, or a Charger- sitting there doing nothing while some asshat from the police department gawks at customers in civilian clothing. It's just there to remind you that you willingly participating in an indulgence that the state does not like.

Their big thing here is trying to catch people buying liquor when they've already drank, regardless if they drove there or not. The cop will stand there and literally bag your bottles. I saw a guy that was acting completely normal (may have exhibited characteristics aesthetically that he had been drinking), get his order snatched, told to leave, and subsequently followed by Mr. Liquor Store Security. If privatization happens, this stuff means less control in this environment.
Most LQs in the salt lake valley have pretty good selection.
 
If you're a real Statist and a Progressive Democrat, you might think it's the government's business to regulate soda pop, too. Think of the obesity and diabetes we all have to pay for outta the State purse. . . uhh. . . the collective asset pool.

Since I don't like any more government than is needed to keep the British outta Utah, I'm just pissed that Rio Tinto can own mines in Utah, and consider the government good for nothing at all.

State of Utah should not be allowed to run any business, or make any law about what people wanna eat, drink, smoke, or swim in.

That's why I directed the question at GF, and not you. ;)
 
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