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If the Jazz/Warriors swapped Curry/Burks, which team would be better?

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JazzFever

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Warriors have some great pieces- but how much of it rides on the otherworldliness of Curry? Are the Jazz just missing one super-scorer to become great?
 
The team with Curry on it would be better. Not only is he an amazing basketball player, but he's a fantastic teammate who makes everyone better... including his coach who he allows to do his job. The worst thing about Curry being on the opposition is that the guy is so tough to dislike. It's almost like getting beaten by him is an honor.
 
ThaPhunkPhenomenon said:
Wait minute please....is this can be trick question?
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Not a trick question, just more blatant, unwarranted ire directed at Alec Burks. Which is apparently par for the course here on Jazzfanz..

There's obviously at least 2 handfuls of posters on this board who like to kick people when their down.. It's cowardly.. Dude got hurt on a dirty play and y'all see it as some opportunity to pile on..

I've never seen an injured young player, who's good, on a reasonable contract and showing steady progress, get picked on by his own fans like this... They don't do that in NY, and the fans here are certainly bitter.


It's despicable, some grudge holding types here.. Plus, they seriously don't know what the **** their looking at, thats the best part...


Burks will make a triumphant return and these wanna be internet bullies will continue this charade.

The truth is - the likelihood of Burks' contract being a good one isn't far off from 100%, which, in that regard, is a similar to Steph Curry's extension in 2012..
 
JazzFever said:
Warriors have some great pieces- but how much of it rides on the otherworldliness of Curry? Are the Jazz just missing one super-scorer to become great?
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Are you saying which curry team would be better? Like would the current jazz be better with curry than the current warriors with curry?
 
PG_AB said:
Not a trick question, just more blatant, unwarranted ire directed at Alec Burks. Which is apparently par for the course here on Jazzfanz..

There's obviously at least 2 handfuls of posters on this board who like to kick people when their down.. It's cowardly.. Dude got hurt on a dirty play and y'all see it as some opportunity to pile on..

I've never seen an injured young player, who's good, on a reasonable contract and showing steady progress, get picked on by his own fans like this... They don't do that in NY, and the fans here are certainly bitter.


It's despicable, some grudge holding types here.. Plus, they seriously don't know what the **** their looking at, thats the best part...


Burks will make a triumphant return and these wanna be internet bullies will continue this charade.

The truth is - the likelihood of Burks' contract being a good one isn't far off from 100%, which, in that regard, is a similar to Steph Curry's extension in 2012..
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I think a lot of us really like burks. Some don't like him. Some question his fit with the team and coaching staff, but nobody really questions his ability.

The other thing that you didn't mention is that some people like him but also view him as a valuable trade chip that is not necessarily a core piece of the team.
 
PG_AB said:
Not a trick question, just more blatant, unwarranted ire directed at Alec Burks. Which is apparently par for the course here on Jazzfanz..

There's obviously at least 2 handfuls of posters on this board who like to kick people when their down.. It's cowardly.. Dude got hurt on a dirty play and y'all see it as some opportunity to pile on..

I've never seen an injured young player, who's good, on a reasonable contract and showing steady progress, get picked on by his own fans like this... They don't do that in NY, and the fans here are certainly bitter.


It's despicable, some grudge holding types here.. Plus, they seriously don't know what the **** their looking at, thats the best part...


Burks will make a triumphant return and these wanna be internet bullies will continue this charade.

The truth is - the likelihood of Burks' contract being a good one isn't far off from 100%, which, in that regard, is a similar to Steph Curry's extension in 2012..
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If this thread is about picking on Burks it went right over my head. Curry on the Jazz = Championship. That is not an insult to Burks.
 
Not picking on Burks. Just a thought experiment to see how close the Jazz are to a Championship team. A Curry/LeBron away or one of them plus another piece. Lebron ain't winning anything this year despite his talent, because there is a certain necessary threshold of supporting talent to win it all. For instance I think if you added Curry, but took away one of Gobert/Favors/Hayward that threshold probably wouldn't be met- Burks is the best non-essential piece to me that we could lose and still be a championship team when adding a superstar.
 
JazzFever said:
Burks is the best non-essential piece to me that we could lose and still be a championship team when adding a superstar.
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I think we could lose Burks or hood too.

Add curry to Hayward, favors, Gobert and Burks and I think we can win a chip
 
fishonjazz said:
I think we could lose hood too.
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magic said:
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Do you think hood is better than curry already?

You don't think adding the best player in the nba to the jazz without hood makes us contenders?

Curry = curry
Burks = barnes (maybe barnes is a bit better)
Hayward > thompson
Favors = green. (Eh green probably better than favors I guess)
Gobert >> bogut

I think adding curry and losing hood that the jazz contend for a title right now
 
fishonjazz said:
Do you think hood is better than curry already?

You don't think adding the best player in the nba to the jazz without hood makes us contenders?

Curry = curry
Burks = barnes (maybe barnes is a bit better)
Hayward > thompson
Favors = green. (Eh green probably better than favors I guess)
Gobert >> bogut

I think adding curry and losing hood that the jazz contend for a title right now
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Lebron James and Kevin Durant are both better than Curry.

Thompson is better than Hayward, but the synergy effect of having Curry might make Hayward better as Hayward is a better 2nd or 3rd option.

The main problem is there isn't sound statistical evidence showing that Burks adds value. As of now he's more of a stat padder than anything.

However, Hood most certainly contributes to the win column. Replace Burks with Hood and I think we are a contender for a title right now. But not the other way around.
 
magic said:
Lebron James and Kevin Durant are both better than Curry.

Thompson is better than Hayward, but the synergy effect of having Curry might make Hayward better as Hayward is a better 2nd or 3rd option.

The main problem is there isn't sound statistical evidence showing that Burks adds value. As of now he's more of a stat padder than anything.

However, Hood most certainly contributes to the win column. Replace Burks with Hood and I think we are a contender for a title right now. But not the other way around.
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We disagree
 
Considering that the Warriors are already one of the best defensive teams in the league and little of that has to do with Curry, that Thompson AND Green are more effective floor-spaces than a single person that we have on this team, they're a team that runs an offense, and they pass better as a team, it's The Warriors. This isn't the mid-2000's Cavs we're talking about.
 
fishonjazz said:
Do you think hood is better than curry already?

You don't think adding the best player in the nba to the jazz without hood makes us contenders?

Curry = curry
Burks = barnes (maybe barnes is a bit better)
Hayward > thompson
Favors = green. (Eh green probably better than favors I guess)
Gobert >> bogut

I think adding curry and losing hood that the jazz contend for a title right now
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????
 
NUMBERICA said:
Considering that the Warriors are already one of the best defensive teams in the league and little of that has to do with Curry, that Thompson AND Green are more effective floor-spaces than a single person that we have on this team, they're a team that runs an offense, and they pass better as a team, it's The Warriors. This isn't the mid-2000's Cavs we're talking about.
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They can even space with Iggy on the floor. Bogut's offensive facilitation... That is one of the best put together teams of all time.
 
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