Jaymz
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That's right, actually. Well maybe not garbage but the Jazz system works too well for Hood and Quins givin him more freedom where Lavine isn't thriving too well with the timberpups.
Trade for Zach Lavine
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Jaymz
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They sure can hop though, shoulda played volleyball.
tbh I don't understand why all fans on all boards are all suddenly cry for Lavine, like he is the reincarnation of Jordan... The guy sure is a monstruous athlete, but he is bad on D, he has poor decision making, is small for a SG but lacks vision for a PG... Honestly I am not sure he is a good player to have if you want to win compared to a less flashy athlete with more brains to fit in a role and do it well.
Jamezz
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Would you like your crow roasted or deep fried sir.
Thee Jazz Fan
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If he went 0/17 in a pickup no defense game, he'd deserve every bit of what ever criticism he got. He's not putting up the same production in a regular game with offensive sets and defense. Not a great argument.
If u ask Wolves fans what they think of Lavine, they will mirror what most say about Lavine. Capable and talented enough to be a stud, but he is dumb as rocks and makes too many dumb plays. He shoots when he should pass and passes when he should shoot. This is coming from those fans that watch his every game.
No!! Hack is not some typical American. I always figured u were an American, if not that's typical foreign hate on Americans for the actions of a few IMO. ****'s far from unique.
I've always enjoyed what you've had to say weather I agree or not, but this is just stupid and maybe u should've stayed ascended or whatever. Wow!! Makes u look bad.
jope
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Yet he has a better ast/to ratio than Neto while being a much better scorer and rebounder. And is 3 years younger.
ncoloradojazz
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Jazz fans love to use the word potential when it comes to jazz players but Lavine is done growing as a player right? No room for improvement? Be honest this a true statement I just said
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and on defense?
ncoloradojazz
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Wanna wager? Say 5 years down the road who is the better player?
ncoloradojazz
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I do want to say this about Jeremy Evans. What a talented drawer he is..I didn't know that about him. If anyone say the Talent show at all star weekend did you see that 2pac one he did? It was really good.
jope
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All three of him, burke, and Neto suck on defense. That said, What doesn't suck is that he has the physical attributes to be a passable defender in the future. Our two micros will never get bigger.
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nearly every NBA player has the physical attributes to be a passable defender. There are players with Kanter's dimensions that are demons on the defensive end. Conversely, Hayward has the measurements that 100% portrayed him as being a minus defender in the NBA.
He's garbage on defense primarily thanks to the one thing that he can't fix-- his brain. He plays like a moron, and he gives minimum effort on defense. He's worse than Neto, and at best on the same level as Burke.
The funny thing is that Burke actually has pretty good length for a PG. 6'5.5 wingspan is bigger than average. He just plays kind of small because he isn't explosive or quick.
jope
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Meh. A good defensive system can hide it sway these things. He's really not any worse defensively than burke or Neto, with more potential, offensive weapons, speed, rebounding etc.
I'd have to look at the numbers but id wager that curry had poor defensive numbers on the Monta led warriors. Now he's the leader of the best defense in the NBA. Systems matter defensively. That, and that we have been fine defensively with poor defense from the pg already. Our defense would remain the same while seeing a jump offensively and offering more potential gains down the road
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FalseFlagg K
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Worst thing that could have happened to LaVine is this instant fame for his dunking. Wonder if he'll completely ignore trying to get any better as a defender?
jope
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Offense gets you fame and fortune in the NBA.
Yes, but wingspan and standing reach are only slightly above average.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Stats are misleading. I spent 2-3 days talking to Wolves fans on their message board people had plenty to say regarding his potential being through the roof, but the fact that he makes boneheaded plays would keep him from reaching his full potential. He's going to get some nice stats because of his physical makeup, but to the last person, they all said he doesn't make his team better or help them win, because he doesn't play within the offense.
Neto is a good defender. Watch the damn games!!
U have to be the best of the best if your not going to play defense, but if your the worst of the worst on defense u don't see the floor. Look at Boozer in his prime. Great offensive player. Al Jefferson is probably the most skilled post player in the league. These guys never became stars though they were top notch offensive players.