Political ideology thread

[Jamezz]

Thanks alt13. A couple things that caught my attention:

I'd like to see the breakdown of the Military (16%) portion. Also, how much money was spent in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya... all prior to 2015?

Interest on Debt (6%), while I believe that, why incur in an unconstitutional debt in the 1st place? What's missing here is how much of all that money that was used in Medicare, Social Security and all the other welfare, was borrowed from the Federal Reserve? In other words, of all those expenses what percentage belongs to money obtained from the people through taxes and what percentage represents borrowed money from the Federal Reserve? That's the bigger picture that we're missing here.

 

[b_line]

Hard to improve college without our HS education improving. I remember in college being shocked at how poorly most students read and comprehended the curriculum. And I'm not exactly a very scholastic person lol.

Lol. High school is a joke.

 

[Jamezz]

Military spending for 2015 was 598.5 billion. Total budget was over 3.8 trillion. I was a tiny bit low at 13% but not far off.

I'm not engaging in conspiracy theory discussions about the federal reserve or Jews in this thread.

Why not, being such an important piece in the puzzle? And once again I was not the first to bring up the Jews in a political thread, it's really getting old.

But fine, I rather not engage in discussions about superfluous patches in an already rigged economic system either.

 

[b_line]

Why not, being such an important piece in the puzzle? And once again I was not the first to bring up the Jews in a political thread, it's really getting old.

But fine, I rather not engage in discussions about superfluous patches in an already rigged economic system either.

Sorry I brought up Jews as a joke about your political ideology. I broke the first rule of the thread.

How do you propose paying for things after cutting 92% of revenue though?

 

[Jamezz]

Sorry I brought up Jews as a joke about your political ideology. I broke the first rule of the thread.

How do you propose paying for things after cutting 92% of revenue though?

I don't know man, I got worn out. Writing about politics wears me out lol

I'll be more than happy to debate over it if you come around Salt Lake. Maybe go grab a coffee or something.

 

[b_line]

I don't know man, I got worn out. Writing about politics wears me out lol

I'll be more than happy to debate over it if you come around Salt Lake. Maybe go grab a coffee or something.

Haha. I hate debating politics in person. It's way too tiring. I won't worry about the tax conversation for now. Come back to it of you want.

It does suck that 6% of our income goes to interest on debt.

 

[b_line]

Haha. I hate debating politics in person. It's way too tiring. I won't worry about the tax conversation for now. Come back to it of you want.

It does suck that 6% of our income goes to interest on debt.

Sorry not 6% of our income but 6% of our spending

 

[♪alt13]

Haha. I hate debating politics in person. It's way too tiring. I won't worry about the tax conversation for now. Come back to it of you want.

It does suck that 6% of our income goes to interest on debt.

Just wait until the interest rate goes up.

Forecasters at the White House and Congressional Budget Office believe interest rates will gradually rise, and when that happens, the interest costs of the U.S. government are set to soar, from just over $200 billion to nearly $800 billion a year by decade’s end.

https://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/03/the-legacy-of-debt-interest-costs-poised-to-surpass-defense-and-nondefense-discretionary-spending/

 

[addictionary]

I don't have much to say about the socioeconomic policies of the American government but if we can also discuss political ideologies as macro theories, then I would like to note that you cannot know if an ideology sucks unless you get to live through it that has been built in a humane way. Like socialism. American people look at the Soviets as their Cold War arch nemesis and think of any communist as a traitor. I say screw the image of Soviets and study what socialism brought to humanity as a structure of thoughts. If fact we all owe or social welfare rights, institutions and foundations that help and try to help make our lives better, help the unfortunate etc. etc. to socialistic ideas that evolved throughout history of thinking and governing and revolutions.

 

[addictionary]

For me the debating of the use of it is pointless. legalize it. I agree that the recreational use had been demonized and it's very foolish IMO. This from someone who wants it legalized but has 0 interest in using.

Also I want to make a post in here about two parent households and the fall of them but I don't have it in me right now.

Have you ever used it? Pot is not something that you would want to shape the brain activity abilities of your people if you are a governor. Let it be free to use but limit it in certain times and places. If you are unable to do it and are unable to observe and control enough to block anti social acts from harming innocents, ban it. This is why there is a blurry line in the freedom of the use of drugs and alcohol. Maybe someday technology advances to such an high level that people can be detected as "good person, won't kill anyone or beat up wife after lighting up a pot" or "potential Ted Bundy" . I would like that. A malfunction would suck though.

 

[Eminence]

I think that governments were instituted for the purpose of protecting the property and privilege of the few. I believe this is still their primary function today and always will be so long as we continue to centralize decision making in so few leaders and institutions. I believe the government cannot get out of the welfare business because it's system of property has condemned the vast majority of people to collect a mere fraction of the value of their labor. I think that the state has always lagged behind social change and has only come to accept it once it could no longer resist it.

I believe that we will replace not only the state but also megalithic corporations with institutions that better serve the people, though not in my lifetime.

Hey, Alt, are you the one who lives in some sort of commune(no negative connotation)? My thinking has been trending that way recently, but I'm having some thinking about how that lifestyle would be applied in the large scale. So I was looking for someone who might have experience with that to chime in on how it could be applied to larger group(or anyone else really).



Echoing people from earlier in the thread I agree that it's high time to move on from the two parent household. Not too many ideas on how to move that forward socially though.

 

[Eminence]

Humanity survived for tens of thousands of years before that dynamic was invented, and it will survive long after it had become obsolete.

Any ideas on how to actively push for alternatives to the two parent household?