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2016 Free Agent Targets: Allen Crabbe

Chandler doesn't fit... I do think we'd trade Burks if we signed Conley, but it would likely be to a team with excess cap space that would assume his contract. I'd want a first rounder out of it too.

Backup center is easy to fill right now, especially since we have Favors who can move between positions. No need to pay an aging chandler 13 M for the next few years to be a mentor and play 5 minutes a night.
 
NCJazz said:
Conley wants to leave Memphis to come to Utah? Luwawu will be ready to play 17 minutes a night in his first season? Think I would rather have Withey than Chandler at this point in his career. Chandler also has another 3 years to go on his contract.
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I have no idea what Conley wants to do. None of us have any idea what any FA wants to do. But IMO, we are probably the most atractive FA destination if he wants to win outside of Memphis. The Spurs (Parker), Dubs (Curry), Clips (Paul), Thunder (Westbrook), Mavs (just signed Deron), Cavs (Irving), Portland (Lillard), Raptors (Lowry), Hawks (Teague/Schröder) all have seemingly firmly entrenched point guards. I'm not sure we do. I realize we haven't made the playoffs but if Conley is a bright guy and believes us to be nearly as talented as we do (with Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hood and Lyles) as fans, he may legitimately think the Jazz has a good shot to make a very deep run in the next few years.

As far as Luwawu, I don't know. We may have to address the 3 by signing a cheaper vet who can shoot like Dudley. In fact, that could be a perfect way to round out the team.

My bad on Chandler. I misremembered.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Chandler doesn't fit... I do think we'd trade Burks if we signed Conley, but it would likely be to a team with excess cap space that would assume his contract. I'd want a first rounder out of it too.

Backup center is easy to fill right now, especially since we have Favors who can move between positions. No need to pay an aging chandler 13 M for the next few years to be a mentor and play 5 minutes a night.
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Doesn't fit? One, he wouldn't play 5 minutes a night. He'd play about 17 as shown. More importantly, given Favors and Gobert's injury history, we may have to call on him more often than expected to play 30-35 a night. Also, let's not kid ourselves. Our team is rife with little bitches and we could REALLY use someone with Chandler's make-up to set the tone. Remember, Dirk said he was the most important guy on that Mavs Final team. We SORELY need a guy like that and quite frankly there are very few like that in the league and he is actually one who may be attainable.
 
Stoked said:
I'm implying that the lack of players under contract, such as Burks and Burke, means at least one trade. That explains Chandler.

This team needs a vet presence to help push them over the hump. Sacrificing Withey is a reasonable price to pay for that experience.

Plenty of players come in and play 17 + mpg their rookie seasons. Is there some specific indication Luwawu cannot?

Also Memphis is in full rebuild and clearly on the decline. Utah is young and on the rise. I think Utah would be an attractive destination for him.
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As far as Conley goes... If he leaves Memphis, I think it'd be Utah, Indiana, and Dallas if he was looking at teams with a starting position and a chance to win. Lakers and Knicks if he wants the big market. Knicks might actually be decent with him, Melo, and the Zinger. Lopez isn't bad either.

Clearly as far as basketball situations go we'd be number one. Similar style to what he's been playing but with much better wings and a bench.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Doesn't fit? One, he wouldn't play 5 minutes a night. He'd play about 17 as shown. More importantly, given Favors and Gobert's injury history, we may have to call on him more often than expected to play 30-35 a night. Also, let's not kid ourselves. Our team is rife with little bitches and we could REALLY use someone with Chandler's make-up to set the tone. Remember, Dirk said he was the most important guy on that Mavs Final team. We SORELY need a guy like that and quite frankly there are very few like that in the league and he is actually one who may be attainable.
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He doesn't fit alongside Gobert or Favors and that is a **** ton of money to pay a guy to play for 17 minutes a night. If we are healthy he'd want more minutes. He's 33 and 5 years removed from the championship run. Maybe we could get that Bryant guy... he was decent in 2011.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He doesn't fit alongside Gobert or Favors and that is a **** ton of money to pay a guy to play for 17 minutes a night. If we are healthy he'd want more minutes. He's 33 and 5 years removed from the championship run. Maybe we could get that Bryant guy... he was decent in 2011.
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Doesn't fit? Because he's good? Unless we want to ignore the fact that he destroyed Gobert the last game we played for like 21 rebounds. You also realize he did only play 24.5 minutes a night this year, right?. So 17 a night + more once Gobert and Favors get injured which they most certainly will and he'll probably average around 21 a night next year.
 
Listen, I'm not saying it's obvious we should go after Chandler but he and Conley would be two HUGE additions. I also think Chandler's contract, if things didn't work out or whatever, isn't so high and he would be very tradeable for a team looking for a defensive 5 for a championship run. Think the Cavs, maybe the Wiz down the line. Teams like that would very well give up a 1st for a guy like that.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Listen, I'm not saying it's obvious we should go after Chandler but he and Conley would be two HUGE additions. I also think Chandler's contract, if things didn't work out or whatever, isn't so high and he would be very tradeable for a team looking for a defensive 5 for a championship run. Think the Cavs, maybe the Wiz down the line. Teams like that would very well give up a 1st for a guy like that.
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Tyson Chandlers contract is an albatross. Just like his last contract with the Knicks..
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Doesn't fit? Because he's good? Unless we want to ignore the fact that he destroyed Gobert the last game we played for like 21 rebounds. You also realize he did only play 24.5 minutes a night this year, right?. So 17 a night + more once Gobert and Favors get injured which they most certainly will and he'll probably average around 21 a night next year.
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He can't shoot, dribble, or pass and adds a lot of something we already have. He will be 34 when the season starts and has been playing in the league since he graduated high school. He has a lot of mileage on those knees. His contract runs for 3 more years at 13 M per year.

No way we would pay for him and Conley. That would add $40 M to the payroll. We can get veteran leadership for cheaper than that.
 
I would be on the Conley train. Buuut I am interested to see what Exum would bring next season as a starter...
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He can't shoot, dribble, or pass and adds a lot of something we already have. He will be 34 when the season starts and has been playing in the league since he graduated high school. He has a lot of mileage on those knees. His contract runs for 3 more years at 13 M per year.

No way we would pay for him and Conley. That would add $40 M to the payroll. We can get veteran leadership for cheaper than that.
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1. It wouldn't add 40M. More like 30M or so. 2. Name me three vets who we could get who have equal or better leadership than he does.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
1. It wouldn't add 40M. More like 30M or so. 2. Name me three vets who we could get who have equal or better leadership than he does.
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Chandler makes 13 per... Conleys max is going to start around 26 M per year (it will take the max to get him). That is 39 in the first year. There are lots of vets that make less than 13 M and don't duplicate our interior defense strengths.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
1. It wouldn't add 40M. More like 30M or so. 2. Name me three vets who we could get who have equal or better leadership than he does.
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Also... Conley is a vet... If we pay him max he better be a leader
 
This Egyptian lookin' big on the Mavs is solid. I'd legit consider making him an offer. Guess it's not really a need with Withey though.
 
Catchall said:
I would jump in the market for Crabbe and also for Evan Fournier, who is a 46/40/84 shooter with a quick release and easy above-the-break range.
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Love me some Fornier.

I think you could draft a similar player in Korkmaz in the draft though.

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