Do the Jazz abandon "the process" this summer?

[karl malone]

I think the FO will continue to build it's core thru the draft & player development but, in an attempt to convince Hayward to re-sign, will upgrade CJ & possibly one of Mack/Neto with veterans. Our lack of depth (primarily due to injuries) & veteran leadership was a large factor in missing the playoffs this year.

We can't miss the playoffs again & still expect to retain Hayward without massively overpaying him (which may not even work if we're in the lottery again & we may have to do regardless). I expect DL to adjust accordingly, especially after hearing his comments regarding placing too much focus on chemistry during this past off-season.

 

[Miggs]

My question is inspired by 2 things:

1. Philly abandoned the process before seeing it through do to lack of playoff appearances

Philly's made basically zero progress in four years. That's why they abandoned the process. That said, they're idiots for doing so with the number of picks they have coming in and by bringing in Colangelo's son who's awful. Nepitism at its worst.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Cakbakkin?


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[Park Bites]

The beauty of this offseason the jazz ate at a crossroads, as far as the "process" goes.

They could trade out some assets to bring in a serious #1 option.

They could go after some vets to round out the bench.

They could spend big and hope they dont mess with chemistry.

They could continue with the youth movement ans development.

 

[Revolution 9]

We've got to look to upgrade CJ, Ingles and Booker. In that order.

I'm quite alright with getting someone instead of Mack as well. Mack wont get it done against he elite teams.
He is not the answer.

 

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[bozmansblues]

how do we afford paying barnes the max, when we will need to resign hayward, favors and gobert - committing to barnes for the 25 mill a year he wants we make that nigh impossible wont it? barnes is a good 3rd or 4th best player on a team, but we dont wont him breaking up the team because of his salary do we? PGAB - have u done the money numbers on this? didnt some guy do an article showing it would be hard for utah to keep its players even without barnes coming in with a max 25 mill per year deal?


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[SLCHooper]

Do the Jazz abandon "the process" this summer?

how do we afford paying barnes the max, when we will need to resign hayward, favors and gobert - committing to barnes for the 25 mill a year he wants we make that nigh impossible wont it? barnes is a good 3rd or 4th best player on a team, but we dont wont him breaking up the team because of his salary do we? PGAB - have u done the money numbers on this? didnt some guy do an article showing it would be hard for utah to keep its players even without barnes coming in with a max 25 mill per year deal?


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LONG POST...

Yea Barnes is a poor mans Hayward. We don't need to MAX a 2nd/3rd option guy. We are already doing that with GTime.

Honestly, look at the Raptors. They were a "good" team with star potential already on the team in Derozan. They went and got a good, now great PG in Lowrey and then made their bench one of the best in the league. They went from almost relevant to relevant to the 2 seed.

First and foremost add to the bench. Keep in mind, the Jazz will have to over pay a bit to get guys to SLC.
Back up center: UFA Timofey Mozgov -3 year 18mil(6 mil a year) or UFA Jordan Hill - 3 year 18 mil(6 mil a year)
Back up wing players: UFA Allen Crabbe - 4 year 32 mil(8 mil a year) or UFA Mirza Teletovic - 3 years 27 mil(9 mil a year) ::BOTH SHOOTERS::
Back up PG or starter til Exum is fully healthy:
Jordan Clarkson - RFA 4 year 56mil (14 mil a year)
**He can play the point or the two. The Lakers have a choice. They can build chemistry between Clarkson and Russell and spend the 12-14 mil a year it will take to keep Clarkson or they will go out and spend the Clarkson money on proven stars. I bet on them going and getting stars.

Potential lineups:
Exum/Clarkson
Hood/Burks/Clarkson/
Hayward/Crabbe/Ingles
Favors/Lyles
Gobert/Mozgov/Withey

You are now able to draft best available and hope you find a star in the draft instead of drafting to fill a need.

Jazz have 30 mil in cap space. This has them spending 28 mil to fill out bench with the potential of a star or two in Crabbe and Clarkson. This fits the Jazz philosophy while also spending money. Thoughts?


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't think Clarkson would even sign with Utah, he hangs out with Kardashians and that ish. He likes the Hollywood lifestyle too much.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I tend to agree with PGAB on this. I don't think Harrison Barnes is the only viable option, but he is certainly one of them--and one that is actually realistic.

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Realistic, yeah, but I'd hate it. He's a role player, nothing more. You can't pay him the max.


He's a guy who's not elite at anything. Pretty decent shooter, but can't create his own shot. Doesn't play to his athleticism. Pretty decent defender, but can't lock anybody down. Does not create shots for others. I just think maxing him is dumb.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Honestly, I think we need to trade one of Gobert/Favors or bring one off the bench. They don't play that well together.

We also need to revamp our offense. Pick up the pace, quit passing just to say you made a pass, and learn how to execute a fastbreak. We aren't going anywhere unless Snyder learns how to run an offense.

 

[JimLes]

Zero progress?? you can't be serious..

You can't be serious trying to argue this. Philly are in a pretty bad situation, all things considered. They have maybe 2 pieces right now. Noel and Okafor. You might argue about Embiid, but I'm not sure he'll ever play a game in the NBA. Even if he does, how much do you really expect from his at this point. Okafor is a bit of a head case so far, and that really leaves Noel as the one guy on this team that you'd actually be willing to bet on being a good player down the road. He may become a perennial DPOY candidate in 4-5 years, but he's going to be a free agent this time next year. Why the hell would he stay in Philly when say, Duncan will probably be retiring then and the Spurs will have both money to throw at him and a starting centre spot free? And you can replace the Spurs here with 3-4 other quality teams.

The whole Philly plan was doomed from the start for two simple reasons. One of them is that you can't sign rookies to ten year contracts. The other one is that playing on a 10-win team may not be as good for a player's development as you'd think.