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PG_AB said:
NBAdarft has him underrated at 9.. DX has him overrated at 4.. He's safe as can be in the top-8 IMO..

He's a markedly better athlete than Stan Johnson or even Justise Winslow, his ability to accelerate is elite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbEOAoZhN20

With Hayward, Burks and Brown, now you're talking about a team that can cause havoc getting all the way to the basket.. They've got some good weakside shooters(and offensive rebounding) in place too..
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I really like Brown and think he's a better prospect than both Winslow and Johnson from last year.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
Is brown a better prospect then murray?
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Depends on definition of prospect. I would take Murray before Brown. Not because of better upside (which Brown has, imo), but because Murray is an elite scorer, can play either guard positions, and has an assassins mentality.

I think Murray has it upstairs and will make him a star.
 
PG_AB said:
Canadian Border Control arrested 30 year old Jonathon Nicola for violating the Immigration Refugee Protection Act. What they found out was that for the last 6 months the 6’9″ 200 lb Nicola has been posing as a 17 year Catholic Central High School student and Star basketball player.

We are not talking about a kid that was left back a couple times or reclassified to gain an athletic advantage. This is a literal example of a man amongst boys. Nicola was living with the Catholic Central head basketball coach who last year was quoted as saying that he had a legit chance of playing in the NBA.
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Haha. Did he at least put up decent #'s?
 
PG_AB said:
Newest players at the top of the 'Why doesn't he have a UK offer yet?' lists are;

2016 - Kostas Antetokounmpo (obviously not gonna happen. just throwing it out there one last time)
2017 - Brandon McCoy (no way should Obiagu get an offer over Big B)
2018 - Simi ****tu (Hon mention. Jordan Brown, Bol Bol, Khavon Moore)
2019 - Cole Anthony (Hon mention. RJ Barrett)
2020 - Kyree Walker (Obviously speculative, 6'4" already, will be a dynamic/athletic SF, already has a nice handle/ability to get to the rack)
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Cal offers VERY few players beyond the next recruiting year. Too much can change and the shininess of the offer can wear off.
Instead, he casts a wide net and let's players know he's watching, what he would like them to work on, makes himself available for advice, wishes them well.. and "he'll be in touch." He makes them feel like they have to earn the offer and that nothing is freely given because of talent alone. He even gets into their grades having to get better, wanting to see their willingness to be a volunteer/be good in the community... all before an offer is extended. That's the norm.
 
PG_AB said:
I just wonder, specifically about the can't-miss prospects on the west coast, that it wouldn't be better to give those players offers as early as possible.

2017 players like Jaylen Hands(before he committed to UCLA), Brandon McCoy, and Jordan Brown in 2018 would be examples..


Now I'm sure they've been in contact with Troy Brown (2017) and if Young were to go elsewhere, I'd imagine they'd offer on Duval too.

Cole Anthony is a no-brainer though, I GUARANTEE you, eventually, he gets an offer.. So I figure I'll post it now..

Charles Bassey in 2019 is obvious too.. forgot to mention him

That Kyree Walker in 2020 is legit too, could be one of those west coast prospects I'm talking about..
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Duval is going to Duke, period. Cal is ALL IN on Young and I'd say he's close to a lock.
Troy Brown is getting love.
Same with Cole Anthony.
Haven't heard much from staff on McCoy.. not that I hear everything, of course.

Like I said, he is a recruiting machine... he speaks to EVERYONE... but then he zeroes in later in the process. That's why I think we have great chemistry. He gets to know the kids well before offering.
 
Korkmaz is pretty impressive. One thing I am hesitant on is everything seems to come from him being ball-dominant and in iso. Even his pick and rolls appeared to break down into one on one play. The skills are definitely there tho.
 
PG_AB said:
Draftexpress seems to think so.. NBAdarft no..

I don't think so..

It's close though..

In a perfect best-case scenario Brown probably has more upside..

3pt shooting is the great equalizer these days though and Murray's the best in this draft.
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41% from the college 3 is the best in the draft? Dont think so. Korkmaz shoots about 46% from the longer FIBA line.
 
Just watched some Luwawu highlights too. He reminds me of Rockets style wing players. Long athlete that can spot up shoot. I think he could be a good 3rd or 4th wing someday. Mostly looks like a athlete playing among boys in his highlights.
 
PG_AB said:
Tyler Dorsey who's currently in this draft pool is a better prospect than Taylor..

Rumor floating about Dorsey is an interesting one for a team such as the Jazz... He could remain in the draft, fall wherever and go play pro in Greece..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zar7XYqa0hs

If thats the plan he'd be a great pick in the 2nd round to stash..

I'm still an Olivier Hanlan fan, Dorsey is a better project though.. Massive age difference..
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Hanlan was pretty mediocre with Zalgiris this year. Dont think we will ever see him in a Jazz uni.
 
PG_AB said:
To me Korkmaz seems worse than Hezonja and Devin Booker (and even Oubre) from last year, and he certainly doesn't stack up well vs Terrance Furgeson, or Malik Monk next year..

Definitely get the feeling that from 12 he'd be at least a minor reach.. I'd also speculate that the lottery wings in 2018 will be better too.. He certainly doesn't posses the raw talent of a Hamidou Diallo, Luka Doncic or even Brian Bowen..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VxW5WYFUoE
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lmao that video is awesome
 
PG_AB said:
You've gotta be kidding me...
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Are you being serious? Check the stats. However, the question is who is the best 3pt shooter, not who the better player is. If you are asking better player of course I would go with Murray. I was very impressed with Murray during the Pan Am games. I watched Korkmaz play in the Euroleage against men and he can stroke it without question.
 
Carbon13 said:
lmao that video is awesome
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To bad he is playing with Real Madrid (who just got knocked out of the Euroleague playoffs) as far as him getting playing time, but every time I saw him play he was very impressive. Singed pro contract when he was 13. Draft eligible in 18. We should be way to good to draft him but one never knows.
 
PG_AB said:
I checked the stats and Jamal Murray made 1½x more 3's than Furkan attempted..
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Yeah and again Korkmaz plays in a pro league on one of the best teams in Europe so obviously his playing time was much less and Korkmaz is actually younger than Murray. Also did you include his Turkish league and Euroleague stats? I am not a homer even when it comes to NC players so I call it like I see it, but again I really like Murray.
 
PG_AB said:
You brought up Furkan Korkmaz shooting on a longer 3pt line like it means something.. It means nothing..

So let me get this straight.. Furkan didn't have an opportunity to shoot volume 3's because he was buried on the bench.. so he's to be given the benefit of the doubt???


Jamal Murray is proven as a high volume, high percentage 3pt shooter, which is what got D'Angelo Russell drafted over Jahlil Okafor last year..

Korkmaz on the other hand is a specialist..


Jason Kapono isn't a better 3pt shooter than Damian Lillard, I don't care what the %'s say..
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Settle down now. Just my opinion. Sorry if I am questioning a KY player. Lets not act like 41% is the best thing in the world though from the college line.
 
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