Sanders starting to kick some HC... whatever

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Bernie should run as an independent if Hillary doesn't make the concessions that he's asking for.

Him getting more than 10% of the vote would 100% lead to a collapse of the 2-party system, which I'm pretty sure everyone working American wants.

If splitting the left-wing vote results in Trump getting elected, then so be it. The Democratic party will continue to avoid drifting to the left unless there is a real pressure of their party alienating massive voter bases.

The same argument is always made here in Canada-- "you gotta vote Liberal in order to avoid letting the Conservatives win because the NDP will split the vote!!". Well, it might happen for one election, maybe 2. But in the long run it's healthier for democracy because it holds parties accountable to the votes that they receive.

He really can't. There are sore loser laws in many states that would deny him ballot access and in most states it's too late anyway. He could run a write in campaign or maybe accept a vp position with a 3rd party(don't know but this could be against sore loser laws as well).

Bernie isn't running anymore. The best he can hope for is to get Warren selected as Clinton's VP.

 

[Deleted member 848]

He really can't. There are sore loser laws in many states that would deny him ballot access and in most states it's too late anyway. He could run a write in campaign or maybe accept a vp position with a 3rd party(don't know but this could be against sore loser laws as well).

Bernie isn't running anymore. The best he can hope for is to get Warren selected as Clinton's VP.

Jill Stein/Bernie Sanders

 

[JimLes]

There are sore loser laws in many states that would deny him ballot access

I actually had to google this to believe it. Boggles the mind.

 

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Jill Stein/Bernie Sanders

Even the green party probably won't be on the ballot in all 50 states. Likely 40-48

IIRC Oklahoma and Michigan are a real bitch to get on the ballot. Most states are pretty difficult.

 

[Stoked]

Even the green party probably won't be on the ballot in all 50 states. Likely 40-48

IIRC Oklahoma and Michigan are a real bitch to get on the ballot. Most states are pretty difficult.

Only 3 candidates will be on the ballot in all 50 come the general election. D candidate, R candidate and Gary Johnson.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Even the green party probably won't be on the ballot in all 50 states. Likely 40-48

IIRC Oklahoma and Michigan are a real bitch to get on the ballot. Most states are pretty difficult.

can someone explain why this is? I'm not sure I understand the thinking behind this. Hard to see this as anything other than undemocratic.

 

[franklin]

can someone explain why this is? I'm not sure I understand the thinking behind this. Hard to see this as anything other than undemocratic.

It's an American thing, you wouldn't understand.


On a serious note, USA isn't really into democracy. We are in to fighting one party against the other and gerrymandering districts for an edge and boiling down every single swing state to the district and slamming them with t.v. ads and automated phone calls that our poly scientists come up with. Nobody's vote except those in swing states matters & we like to keep it that way. If you want to enter the green party candidate chicken into this pit bull fight we basically don't want to deal with the obnoxious distraction in the match. Everyone knows it won't win anyway, except "principled" Ron Paul voters.

 

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can someone explain why this is? I'm not sure I understand the thinking behind this. Hard to see this as anything other than undemocratic.

There are hundreds probably over a thousand people running for president. I have signed to help a crazy person on the street try to get on the ballot twice so far in my adult life. One of the dudes, the Mango King, may have given me some acid(I plead the 5th). If there were no ballot restrictions the ballot would become unmanageable. The restrictions have gone way too far though. I think we can handle around 8-10 candidates before we even need to start worrying about tightening the ballot.

BTW I would totally vote for Vermin Supreme, the only dude that gets it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxaLOsqTIQw

 

[Stoked]

can someone explain why this is? I'm not sure I understand the thinking behind this. Hard to see this as anything other than undemocratic.

Lots of problems with laws and regulations involving elections in America imo. It is rigged to high heaven.