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I really don't miss Deron that much...

honz said:
I edited my original post just for you! You realize you were the only one that didn't understand what I was saying though, right? :p
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In business we always say that for every customer complaint you hear there are at least 20 of the same complaint that you don't. I'm not sure if it's true or not in this case, but I'm going to assume that it is so that I don't have to admit to being a dork.
 
moevillini said:
I'm sorry but this stuff pisses me off. Brewer shoots over 50% - and anyone who thinks that Williams was pissed he was traded for the reasons stated here are so mistaken. Yeah, it's tough to see a buddy get traded - but what pisses someone off who's trying to lead a team to a championship is when NOTHING is gotten back in return that's going to help get to that championship. Same with the Maynor trade - you had the Jazz giving away contributing assests for NOTHING that would help them the current season or the next - - or the next. Given the front office's history with draft picks during his tenure in Utah, I imagine Deron figured either they'd draft another worthless stiff or get someone decent that they'd trade away.

anyhow, I can't decide whether or not I miss Deron with the Jazz. I still try to follow him (I'll always be grateful for what he and his Illini teammates did during the 03/04 and 04/05 seasons - - and the wonderful support he's continued to show to the University of Illinois) so now I have to try to watch the Nets as well as the Jazz. But I was very disappointed in the team's (Jazz) lack of progress this season, and it does seem (in spite of the run of losses) that they're showing signs of becoming an exciting team to watch again, and a team of players who enjoy what they're doing.
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Well, that's your take. My take is that Deron pushed the last several years to keep his buddies on the team and was upset when any of them got traded. Well before this year I felt like Deron cared more about builing a team of friends than being on a team of winners. I question his heart and his leadership. We'll see what happens when he gets some real players on his team that he has to share teh spolight with. I could very well be wrong, this is just my impression.

Oh, and he was an *** when I went to the STH meet the players autograph party. I was so excited to "meet" him and get his autograph only to have him roll his eyes at me then look sideways with a disinterested look on his face. I felt like punching the guy. He was very friendly and engaging with the almost legal hotties in front of me, though.
 
Gameface said:
Well, that's your take. My take is that Deron pushed the last several years to keep his buddies on the team and was upset when any of them got traded. Well before this year I felt like Deron cared more about builing a team of friends than being on a team of winners. I question his heart and his leadership. We'll see what happens when he gets some real players on his team that he has to share teh spolight with. I could very well be wrong, this is just my impression.

Oh, and he was an *** when I went to the STH meet the players autograph party. I was so excited to "meet" him and get his autograph only to have him roll his eyes at me then look sideways with a disinterested look on his face. I felt like punching the guy. He was very friendly and engaging with the almost legal hotties in front of me, though.
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Never get in line behind the hotties. It's a no win situation. You would have rolled your eyes at any guy who replaced them, too. If you were him, who would you rather be talking to?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Or they couldn't get anything of value for his absurdly large contract since they weren't going to take longterm salary. If they have a figure worked out already, then he could have been extended.

I think he sets a poor example and is nothing resembling a leader. Considering that and that he's not getting younger on a team that definitely will be, I hope he's gone.
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Amen.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
In business we always say that for every customer complaint you hear there are at least 20 of the same complaint that you don't. I'm not sure if it's true or not in this case, but I'm going to assume that it is so that I don't have to admit to being a dork.
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Again, I didn't realize it was such a grave mistake. Please forgive me. If you can.
 
This thread shows distinct evidence of a Jazz fan base in denial. Perhaps the Jazz really did have to pull the trigger to trade D-Will this early, but any belief that the Jazz aren't a significantly worse team now and in at least the foreseeable the future without D-Will is, IMHO, whistling past the graveyard.

I understand the impulse to try to look on the bright side, but I mean . . . c'mon, really?
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
This thread shows distinct evidence of a Jazz fan base in denial. Perhaps the Jazz really did have to pull the trigger to trade D-Will this early, but any belief that the Jazz aren't a significantly worse team now and in at least the foreseeable the future without D-Will is, IMHO, whistling past the graveyard.

I understand the impulse to try to look on the bright side, but I mean . . . c'mon, really?
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At the possibility of sounding like a hack, I have to say it: Drink some paint thinner and cut your wrists. Thanks.
 
Has anyone said we aren't a worse team without Deron? I haven't seen it, but this team clearly was not going anywhere with Deron either. Of course we are worse without him...I'm just surprised I don't miss watching him in a Jazz uni more.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Devin used to annoy the hell out of me when he played with the Mavericks, but I think it was mainly because I watched him when they were playing the Jazz. That trade was flat out robbery by us now that I have seen a fair amount of him and Favors' potential a bit more. If we hit on one of those draft picks, KOC should be arrested for murder.
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Even more so if DWill doesn't reup with the Nets.
 
I think the team is still in a daze ... first Sloan, the rock, the foundation of the Jazz for more than 20 yrs retires in midseason, then the Jazz trade their best player, who was the glue of the team. Even I feel in a daze as a fan because though I had some issues with Sloan and Deron, they still made the team what it is. Without them, the Jazz are bottom feeders. We can now look forward to rebuilding, but can we do it under Greg? KOC has had mixed results, and wonder if he is up to the task.
 
I miss the horrible mess he made of his arm to cover up that weak panther tat and the No Guts tat. Wow were they awful. Just goes to show, if you have a tat you don't like your only option is to cover it with something darker until you can barely make out anything but a big black blob. Even close up they didn't look very good, but it covered 3/4 of his arm. I know they are pretty tame compared to dudes like the birdman who is flat out insane, but damn D Will!

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Joe Bagadonuts said:
They reminded me of a kids math homework covered with hideous, black eraser marks... but there's no way they were as bad as Birdman's or those lips on the side of Kenyon Martin's face.
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Yeah but if you take away the dregs of humanity in the NBA then Deron's tats are among the worst.
 
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