Smh... hollow retort.
Rumor: Favors and Hayward for D'angello Russell and the #2 pick?
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Smh... hollow retort.
green
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First, Utah ain't going nowhere. They haven't been to the playoffs in forever and are still top 10 in attendance and are selling tickets like hotcakes. AND they own their stadium. That means they make money off the American Idol and Disney on Ice performances in the summer time when half the NBA is in the playoffs but Utah isn't. IF they left, some other team would move here yesterday.
You bag on my strategy but it's simple: Don't get stuck in the middle. I want Utah to make moves to move up or down. And if that's dumb...well, then every analyst/GM is dumb because that's their greatest fear.
Except Utah. For whatever reason, they LOVE the middle (probably because that's where the most profits are).
They have Al and Millsap and Korver and make no moves to better the team. Or worsen it. They sit in the middle collecting money. They have Hornacek on the bench, but don't fire Corbin to give him a shot (save money). Then they let both walk for nothing and Millsap goes on to be an All Star. And Korver goes on to have amazing seasons statistically and is an All Star as well. BUT, they say they are tanking. But not really. They still want to be competitive (again, to maximize profits).
This year, they have talent and a real shot at the playoffs. It's been awhile and the fanbase would love the playoffs. Utah has cap room. What do they do? Nothing, putting the millions in cap room back in their pockets. Profits are great in the middle.
Like I've said, I don't want to wildly throw caution to the wind. I want the Jazz to do SOMETHING...other than let their talent walk as FA's and become All Stars in other cities.
Either move up (get a starting PG, starting wing and backup big) or move down (go for a superstar).
But both those options cost money. And that eats profits.
So, I see the Jazz doing nothing. Maybe moving back in the draft (more savings). Then talk about Dante, Burks being healthy as FA additions. Oh, and having Mack all year. And Lyles getting better.
I'll give it to the Millers. It's genius. The profits are incredible. They prey on Utah's "trusting" nature.
I'll eat my words if I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But I won't be. You will start to hear about how great Exum looks, how Rudy has gained weight, Lyles has become the next Love and is draining threes at a historical rate.
And we will bake the cake and watch Lillard and four scrubs do better than Utah.
You bag on my strategy but it's simple: Don't get stuck in the middle. I want Utah to make moves to move up or down. And if that's dumb...well, then every analyst/GM is dumb because that's their greatest fear.
Except Utah. For whatever reason, they LOVE the middle (probably because that's where the most profits are).
They have Al and Millsap and Korver and make no moves to better the team. Or worsen it. They sit in the middle collecting money. They have Hornacek on the bench, but don't fire Corbin to give him a shot (save money). Then they let both walk for nothing and Millsap goes on to be an All Star. And Korver goes on to have amazing seasons statistically and is an All Star as well. BUT, they say they are tanking. But not really. They still want to be competitive (again, to maximize profits).
This year, they have talent and a real shot at the playoffs. It's been awhile and the fanbase would love the playoffs. Utah has cap room. What do they do? Nothing, putting the millions in cap room back in their pockets. Profits are great in the middle.
Like I've said, I don't want to wildly throw caution to the wind. I want the Jazz to do SOMETHING...other than let their talent walk as FA's and become All Stars in other cities.
Either move up (get a starting PG, starting wing and backup big) or move down (go for a superstar).
But both those options cost money. And that eats profits.
So, I see the Jazz doing nothing. Maybe moving back in the draft (more savings). Then talk about Dante, Burks being healthy as FA additions. Oh, and having Mack all year. And Lyles getting better.
I'll give it to the Millers. It's genius. The profits are incredible. They prey on Utah's "trusting" nature.
I'll eat my words if I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But I won't be. You will start to hear about how great Exum looks, how Rudy has gained weight, Lyles has become the next Love and is draining threes at a historical rate.
And we will bake the cake and watch Lillard and four scrubs do better than Utah.
green
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Fine. I don't care about easing Exum into the starting role. I don't care about Exum getting playing time. If Exum is as good as people think he will be, he will be able to play the one and two and will demand minutes by his play.
So, you have Exum, who has played one season of professional ball and offensively he was historically terrible. He then sat out a year. Now, he is coming off an injury. What do you do? Do you throw him in for 35 mins a night and hope he blossoms?
Or do you sign a starting PG, let Exum play against second string guys, give him more minutes as he improves, let him play the 1 and 2, which plays into Snyder's strategy of multiple P&R's every possession and bump up his minutes as he needs to and ends the year playing 30-35 mins a night and you make the playoffs?
I'll take the 6-4 strategy and go after the PG that has shown he can start and then hedge my bets on Dante.
OR, if I believe Dante is the answer, then build around Dante and move Favors and Hayward for pieces that will compliment Dante. But then, what fun would that be when my organization loves watching our prized FA's leave and become All Stars somewhere else?
green
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This is my problem. The Jazz aren't swinging. They are literally doing NOTHING. Let FA's walk. Obtain assets. Don't do anything with them. Don't sign anyone.
What has Utah done? Let me ask you this. This could have been Utah's team:
Hornacek - Head Coach, has won 48 games in the Western Conference with a team supposed to be at the bottom of the West.
PG - Mack, Burke (I do believe that Burke isn't worth the ninth pick, but he would be perfect for Horny's system)
SG - Hayward, Burks
SF - Carroll, Hood (Hood was taken late in the first round, Utah could have gotten him again)
PF - Millsap
C - Favors, Gobert (Again, Utah could have bought Gobert the same way they bought Gobert)
That adds up to 80 million. We'd still have cap room. We would have made the playoffs.
ncoloradojazz
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Yet you think the current Jazz roster has championship caliber ability.lol
ncoloradojazz
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I dont know if you have much education ,Ive never said championship BUT I have said when healthy they will have a team who can with their defense compete with any team ,whether they can win the close games will come down to their maturation on offense as a young veteran team.I advocate a scorer in the draft to help get them from near the bottom as a team in scoring.
framer
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Congratulations, you have just constructed a treadmill team with almost no upside just like the ones you constantly bitch about. Additionally there would be very little room for improvement and crappy draft choices.
Meanwhile, Hornecek got fired because it turned out that his offense wasn't so bad *** after people had a year to prepare for it.
gregbroncs
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Was or was not their record good enough for the playoffs when they were healthy? Why would the Miller's thank me? I'm a cheap *** and have not bought a Jazz related item or ticket in years.
AlaskanAssassin
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I'm not sold D'Angelo Russell is going to be that good. He looks like a slightly better version of Evan Turner to me.
fishonjazz
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