George Hill coming to Utah

[Jazz4ever]

Hill is a defensive beast and can hit the 3, will work well with Hayward, Exum, and Burks. A better fit than Teague imo. Hill is 30 though, a very win now move.
DL wants to put the Jazz on the map next year, but the underlying reason I think he did it was a playoff push guarantees Hayward doesn't walk.

 

[Gameface]

I don't like this trade, I'm serious. The 12th draft pick was the consolation prize for not making the playoffs and they throw it away so easily for a player that will be an unrestricted free agent next season.

I remember that few posters wanted the trade for Teague in February, calling it just a "loan" for 1,5 season...now suddenly almost everyone glad to trade for a player with a similar contract situation and lose a first round draft pick.

I don't get why you bring up the mini-camps. Why wouldn't the Jazz hold mini-camps? What if this deal didn't go through? What if they saw something in the camps that they really liked. Or, what if they saw a bunch of stuff in the mini-camps they didn't care for and it led them to this decision?

Anyway, sounds like Hill will be more than a rental. Sounds like he fills a need and makes our team better. Sounds like that's gonna pay dividends next season. That's way more than I would have dared hope for from our 12th pick, so it sounds like our consolation prize is even better.

But I get it. A lot of sports fans find drafting more exciting than any other part of the sport. I'm not on that bus so I don't know what kinds of songs you guys sing.

 

[Tony]

Just once, just once before I die I'd like to see a trade where the Jazz come out on top. Like, Lakers-style on top where we get a quality player for garbage.

It's like there's only two trades the Jazz ever make. They either trade picks for an underwhelming players or get involved in 3-team deals to help another team while we get picks or garbage.

Go be a Raptors fan you filthy maple syrup farmer.

 

[fishonjazz]

So what does everyone see happening for the minutes/playing time breakdown between hill, exum, hood, hayward, burks, mack, ingles and neto?

In the normal competitive game with everyone healthy....
I think hill starts at pg
Hood starts at shooting guard
Hayward starts at small forward.

Hayward gets 35 minutes
Hill gets 28
Hood gets 31
Burks gets 28
Which leaves 22 remaining minutes for exum (I think my math is right??? 48 minutes each position of pg, sg, and sf?)

Neto and mack only get in during blowouts. (And I don't really care if they ever play) same for ingles I guess.


Maybe Hayward gets minutes at the 4 in small lineups?

 

[Stoked]

Just once, just once before I die I'd like to see a trade where the Jazz come out on top. Like, Lakers-style on top where we get a quality player for garbage.

It's like there's only two trades the Jazz ever make. They either trade picks for an underwhelming players or get involved in 3-team deals to help another team while we get picks or garbage.

It's almost like those are super rare because all the other teams want to improve their teams as well.

 

[da ThRONe]

I don't think so. We would have had a chance to get him, but there would have been other offers.

And appeasing Hayward by building a good playoffs team is not a bad thing.

Still only have a chance to keep him beyond next year. Sure this improves the team chances still a gamble.

 

[str8line]

This deal seems like it's a conservative approach. As long as Dante plays big minutes I could have been happy with Mack and Neto. I probably would have put my faith in Dante, Mack and Neto and gambled on possibly getting a surprise upside from the 12th pick. I wonder how Dante is doing with his knee. If he's not nearing 100% they might be playing it safe.

 

[fishonjazz]

It's almost like those are super rare because all the other teams want to improve their teams as well.

This

 

[Diamond77]

I don't get why you bring up the mini-camps. Why wouldn't the Jazz hold mini-camps? What if this deal didn't go through? What if they saw something in the camps that they really liked. Or, what if they saw a bunch of stuff in the mini-camps they didn't care for and it led them to this decision?

Anyway, sounds like Hill will be more than a rental. Sounds like he fills a need and makes our team better. Sounds like that's gonna pay dividends next season. That's way more than I would have dared hope for from our 12th pick, so it sounds like our consolation prize is even better.

But I get it. A lot of sports fans find drafting more exciting than any other part of the sport. I'm not on that bus so I don't know what kinds of songs you guys sing.

Maybe you forget there is still the free agency that could have made the Jazz a better team without wasting a first round draft pick.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The Jazz obviously preferred Hill to Teague, even though Teague is four years younger and a more potent threat as a ball-handler and scorer. To me, this means a few things:
-They're doubling down on this iteration of the team. Hayward isn't going anywhere
-They don't want a guy that wants to control the offense as they know and like what they already have in that regard. Hayward isn't going anywhere.
-They still want to give Exum an opportunity to become THE guy, and Hill's age paired with his ability to play well without controlling the ball points to that. SIMULTANEOUSLY, the Jazz want some kind of insurance in case Exum never ends up coming along.

This is the worst I've ever been at knowing the draft and the prospects, so maybe that informs my opinion somewhat, but I'm cool with this. I wasn't in love with anyone likely to be there, and at #12 you're just as likely to bust as to find a rotation player. This is a bit of a gamble, BUT AT SOME POINT this team had to acquire an actual NBA player and show some ****ing steel.

 

[Gameface]

Maybe you forget there is still the free agency that could have made the Jazz a better team without wasting a first round draft pick.

I'm a Jazz fan. I have no idea what free agency is.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm a Jazz fan. I have no idea what free agency is.

Troo