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Steve Kerr's Passionate Personal Stand on Gun Control

fishonjazz said:
I got about 10 feet from a bear while hiking (fishing) a few years back.
I kind of wished I had a gun right then in case it attacked.

I now usually carry bear mace with me when I hike/fish but I can understand someone wanting to carry a gun instead.
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Well, i have an assumption (based on the Karl May "Winnetou" novel :-) ) that neither American Brown bear or grizzly won't notice at all the wounds that are caused by the bullets used in the handgun? Only if you hit the eyes, then you have chance to escape (if the bear is pissed off).
 
bigb said:
K2 and Everest are entirely different than hiking around the Rocky Mountains. I've literally stumbled onto feeding moose while hiking/snowshoeing in the mountains around here. If one of them were to charge, I'd want a gun. There are many mountain lions around here. Bears are in these mountains as well. When I hike, I carry.
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Are you saying that while hiking in Rockies, then it is probably easier to encounter a bear, mountain lion or other animals instead of (of course never say never)serial killer or other armed loonies?
But would you bother carry it with you while skiing in Vail, Aspen and other US ski resorts?
 
lauriandres said:
Are you saying that while hiking in Rockies, then it is probably easier to encounter a bear, mountain lion or other animals instead of (of course never say never)serial killer or other armed loonies?
But would you bother carry it with you while skiing in Vail, Aspen and other US ski resorts?
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I should have been more specific. I usually carry anyway. If I'm in the mountains, I'm carrying. Period.
 
lauriandres said:
Well, i have an assumption (based on the Karl May "Winnetou" novel :-) ) that neither American Brown bear or grizzly won't notice at all the wounds that are caused by the bullets used in the handgun? Only if you hit the eyes, then you have chance to escape (if the bear is pissed off).
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You'd be surprised. I mean, a 9mm won't do you much good, but if you're carrying a 44 mag (that's my bear gun), then you should be alright if you load your ammo right.
 
dalamon said:
I doubt there are many, namely because semi-automatic weapons are much easier to use for amateur gun owners. I bet you, with limited ammunition, a person could kill more people with a semi-auto AK than a fully automatic one
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Several things.

1) I'm not asking for many, I'm asking for one. Just one. You came up with the argument, your responsibility to not talk out of your ***.

2) you're changing the argument, because you're wrong. Quit moving the goalposts.

3) Why should ammo be a limiting factor? It isn't in most cases.

4) If you really think a semi-auto will be more deadly than a full auto, please check yourself out of this thread and admit your ignorance.
 
lauriandres said:
Well, i have an assumption (based on the Karl May "Winnetou" novel :-) ) that neither American Brown bear or grizzly won't notice at all the wounds that are caused by the bullets used in the handgun? Only if you hit the eyes, then you have chance to escape (if the bear is pissed off).
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Usually you can shoot a gun straight up in the air and it will scare the bear. So there is that purpose.

Also, which do you think a bear would notice more? Getting shot by a gun, punched by a fist, hit with a stick, having a rock thrown at them?

I think they notice getting shot with a gun more than the other things. I would definitely rather fight a bear with a gun than a stick or something.
 
#bern said:
So no, you couldn't find one instance of somebody modifying a semi-automatic into a fully automatic weapon to kill somebody. That wasn't so hard, was it?
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Searched modified AR-15 mass sbooting, and this came up instantly.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles...o-shooting-illegal-under-state-law-1449201057

It's very obvious that people would modify them more frequently if it was actually of huge use. But with smaller magazine sizes and amount that u can carry on u (I.e. Limited munitions) and the difficulty of controlling a rapid-shooting rifle to ppl outside of the military, it makes it quite obvious why there isn't a huge desire for modification. Mass murderers aren't morons. Google gives you thousands of hits on how to make commonly accessible rifles fully automatic.

The point here is that it can be done, though.
 
dalamon said:
Searched modified AR-15 mass sbooting, and this came up instantly.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles...o-shooting-illegal-under-state-law-1449201057

It's very obvious that people would modify them more frequently if it was actually of huge use. But with smaller magazine sizes and amount that u can carry on u (I.e. Limited munitions) and the difficulty of controlling a rapid-shooting rifle to ppl outside of the military, it makes it quite obvious why there isn't a huge desire for modification. Mass murderers aren't morons. Google gives you thousands of hits on how to make commonly accessible rifles fully automatic.

The point here is that it can be done, though.
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Lmao.

They altered how the magazines are released, now how the gun fires. Do you understand the difference?

Look, of course you can make a semi auto a full auto. It's not easy, you're pretty likely to end up with a gun that won't fire, but it is possible. So of course it can be done. But has it? You still haven't given any link to a shooting where it has happened.
 
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