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An interesting read on this guy Kenneth Faried from Chad Ford's chat today:

JR (Chicago)

In the Simmons podcast, you compared Kenneth Faried to Dennis Rodman and stated that Faried could sneak into the lottery. (I agree with this assessment). As a GM, if you knew that Faried would be the next Dennis Rodman (i.e. a perenniel rebounding leader), would you pick him No. 1 overall considering that this class is not top heavy? I think an argument could be made that it wouldn't be a bad pick.

Chad Ford (1:44 PM)

He's not going No. 1 overall. Rightly or wrongly, NBA GMs won't take a guy No. 1 just based on defensive ability (this isn't the NFL). In the high lottery, they really want guys who can excel at both ends. But I'm a huge Faried fan. Have been for the last two years. His rebounding numbers are extraordinary. But it's his motor, length and athleticism combined with his rebounding ability that make him special. I'm not sure he'll be a good offensive player in the NBA, but he can help a lot of teams. I'd take him in the lottery, most NBA GMs have him in the mid to late first.
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This looks like a guy we can use given our rebounding woes. I would still prefer to have Millsap off the bench since he's really good at it, but in case he's not happy like Bell and gets traded, Faried may be a good replacement.

Just looked up his stats: 17.6ppg, 14.5rpg, 2spg, 2.4bpg... quite impressive even for college...
 
Zerol said:
An interesting read on this guy Kenneth Faried from Chad Ford's chat today:

This looks like a guy we can use given our rebounding woes. I would still prefer to have Millsap off the bench since he's really good at it, but in case he's not happy like Bell and gets traded, Faried may be a good replacement.

Just looked up his stats: 17.6ppg, 14.5rpg, 2spg, 2.4bpg... quite impressive even for college...
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he sounds like a nice guy to have on your team, but, from what I can see, I agree with the 20-or-later projections. His minutes would overlap heavily with Evans -- another player with intangibles and no consistent offensive game.

Let's think like the Spurs for a minute: they wouldn't take this player unless he somehow fell to them in the late first round (where they always manage to be picking) or the early second. That's because the utility of a shooter or creator far surpasses the utility of a tweener/energy guy.

so, even if he ends up being awesome at what he does, I'd rather the Jazz draft somebody who can shoot the damn ball before they go for this guy. That's just where we are at right now.
 
NAOS said:
he sounds like a nice guy to have on your team, but, from what I can see, I agree with the 20-or-later projections. His minutes would overlap heavily with Evans -- another player with intangibles and no consistent offensive game.

Let's think like the Spurs for a minute: they wouldn't take this player unless he somehow fell to them in the late first round (where they always manage to be picking) or the early second. That's because the utility of a shooter or creator far surpasses the utility of a tweener/energy guy.

so, even if he ends up being awesome at what he does, I'd rather the Jazz draft somebody who can shoot the damn ball before they go for this guy. That's just where we are at right now.
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I agree, but if you're talking about Jimmer, give me Faried 8 days out of 7.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I agree, but if you're talking about Jimmer, give me Faried 8 days out of 7.
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naw, I wasn't talking about Jimmer.

Since I'm trying to 'draft like the Spurs', I don't imagine I would take Jimmer until the early second round.... just behind the likes of Faried.
 
i don't think we have a second rounder this year though - and last time the Spurs in lottery, they went #1 and drafted Tim Duncan so we don't have a big enough sample to know how they would handle picking in lottery...
 
Catchall that would be a disaster for the jazz. As much as I like both players together would kill the jazz neither can shoot the ball.
 
I think their player commentary is interesting. He's not saying that these are the players the Jazz would actually take, but just generally puts the players in order as he sees it.
 
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