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Current Players NBA Draft Round 2: tfivas vs. Eminence

Who would win in a 7 game series?


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Elizah Huge

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Team tfivas:

PG - Stephen Curry / Shaun Livingston
SG - J.J. Redick / J.R. Smith
SF - Carmelo Anthony / Evan Turner
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Harrison Barnes
C - DeAndre Jordan / Mason Plumlee

Team Eminence:

PG - Eric Bledsoe / Ricky Rubio
SG - James Harden / Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SF - Jae Crowder / Robert Covington
PF - Draymond Green / Kyle Anderson
C - Steven Adams / Kelly Olynyk

tfivas' Case:

n/a

Eminence's Case:

I’ll explain my team by going through each players role on the team by pick order:

Draymond- Defensive anchor/heart of the team. Draymond is the perfect #2 guy. Best defender in the league (16.4 DFGA at -6.1% per NBA.com), good floor spacer (38.8% from 3 per basketballreference), and a great secondary passer (7th in the league in assists at only 18.8% usage). His drive will keep everyone on the team engaged and going 100%. ~40 mpg mostly at PF, can slide to C for smallball.

Harden- Offensive superstar. As capable of carrying an offense as anyone in the league (2nd in points, 6th in assists). Comes the closest to Steph in replicating the deadly Curry/Green PnR, with less pulling up from 35 and more driving to the hoop. ~40 mpg at SG, but will always be the primary ballhandler.

Bledsoe- Secondary playmaker/backcourt compliment to Harden. A high-motor PG who’s used to playing next to another primary ballhandler from all those years in Phoenix. Very good defender to take assignments from Harden. ~35 mpg all at PG, pretty much all with Harden.

Crowder- Wing defender and another high energy guy. As strong a 3 as there is in the league, good defender, can hit an open shot, his job is basically to be a mini-Draymond. Play hard. ~35 mpg, mostly at SF, with some time at PF during smallball.

Adams- Be big and physical. Grab boards and protect the rim. A player I’m expecting to see take a couple step forwards in his age 23 season. ~30 mpg all at C.

Rubio- Run the offense for the few minutes Harden is off and play defense. ~10 mpg at PG, usually with KCP as his backcourt partner.

KCP- Play defense and hit open shots. One of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA nobody talks about. ~15 mpg mostly at SG with Rubio, will occasionally see time at “PG” alongside Harden.

Anderson- Be the secondary playmaker for the 2nd unit after Rubio. ~10 mpg at PF similar to Diaw.

Olynyk- Floor spacing big man (40.5% from 3), an underrated defender he can get the job done on that end as well. ~15 mpg at C.

Covington- 3 and D wing, has some size to allow us to play small ball with a 3/4/5 of Covington/Crowder/Draymond if needed. ~10 mpg at the SF spot.
 
I really like Fivas's offense, but his defense is ridiculously heavily dependent on DeAndre, who's susceptible to being taken out of the game at key times through fouling. (Plus, Dirk has to regress one of these years right?) Anywho, I think my boys got this by having a much better offense/defense balance.
 
Is this another joke? How Eminence even has a single vote? His team is awful/pathetic and tfivas has one of the best teams in all this thing. Come people, be objective.
 
Is this another joke? How Eminence even has a single vote? His team is awful/pathetic and tfivas has one of the best teams in all this thing. Come people, be objective.

Thanks for the support, this is going to be a close one.
 
Thanks for the support, this is going to be a close one.

It should not. His team sucks major balls and has holes everywhere. His perimeter defence is non existent, Curry alone can win this matchup easily.
 
It should not. His team sucks major balls and has holes everywhere. His perimeter defence is non existent, Curry alone can win this matchup easily.

Lol wut?

Bledsoe is a decent defender, Harden not so much (but improved last year!), Rubio is one of the leagues top defensive PG's, and KCP is an excellent defender.
 
It should not. His team sucks major balls and has holes everywhere. His perimeter defence is non existent, Curry alone can win this matchup easily.

You're either straight up trolling or don't know jack about basketball. Bledsoe/Rubio/KCP/Crowder/Covington are all above-average to great defenders. Throw in Draymond as one of the best perimeter defending bigs in the game... Yeah, I hope for your sake you're trolling.
 
Not sure if serious. None of them are better then average.

Ok, nevermind, Bledsoe is. I looked at basketball reference just out of curiosity. Only Bledsoe has above average defensive ranking, rest is either average or bellow. Stand corrected, Curry, JR, Carmelo thats like a red carpet for them to shoot 3's all game long.
 
Not sure if serious. None of them are better then average.

For reference- ESPN positional DRPM rank for each for the 3 available seasons (14,15,16):

Rubio: 2nd, 1st, 2nd
Bledsoe: 1st, 3rd, 11th
KCP: 8th, 27th, 16th
Crowder: 10th, 43rd, 7th
Covington: 24th, 26th, 3rd

None of them better than average, c'mon man. Measuring defense off of the box-score (essentially just steals/blocks and what bballref Drating does) is not effective.

edit: Drating also has a large rebounding factor, wouldn't want to mislead anyone :)
 
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For reference- ESPN positional DRPM rank for each for the 3 available seasons (14,15,16):

Rubio: 2nd, 1st, 2nd
Bledsoe: 1st, 3rd, 11th
KCP: 8th, 27th, 16th
Crowder: 10th, 43rd, 7th
Covington: 24th, 26th, 3rd

None of them better than average, c'mon man. Measuring defense off of the box-score (essentially just steals/blocks and what bballref Drating does) is not effective.

There is tons of defensive ranking systems and I am not sure why you picking ESPN as the best to prove your case. So far seems like most of the posters here agree that Tfivas has better team. Don't get butt hurt about silly internet game.
 
Tough one. For me melo is the key. He would lose this match up or win it. History says he would lose it. **** history.
Tfivas.
 
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