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OFFICIAL GAME THREAD PRE-SEASON VS BLAZERS 8PM MT

Our main guys played about 20 mins last night. Guys were playing half speed. The game basically became a summer league game starting around the middle of the 3rd quarter. The only thing to take away is how a few key guys looked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXJPe91QUls
 
Catchall said:
Our main guys played about 20 mins last night. Guys were playing half speed. The game basically became a summer league game starting around the middle of the 3rd quarter. The only thing to take away is how a few key guys looked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXJPe91QUls
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IDK. That was really the Portland offense out there cooking us for open 3's (some were semi-contested but a lot were open).
 
JFFR said:
I didn't watch him in the Olympics. Thank you for renewing my hope.

I guess it stemmed from all the love Diaw has been getting in the past few weeks for being an intellectual, a man of many interests, and liking coffee. It just reminded me of how Amaechi fancied himself an intellectual and was a big, mostly-bald black European that came to the Jazz in his mid thirties. When Diaw looked slow and out of sorts last night, the comparison really rung home.

I'm hoping I'm wrong. I'll try to continue to believe in Diaw (and Johnson and Hill.) The Jazz have had a habit of bringing in past-their-prime big men. For some reason it really sells to the fan base and we continue to fall for it.
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Diaw may be the best passer on our team. Wait'll he gets used to playing with the other guys; in addition, he is an underrated post player who also can hit the 3.
 
Dear Diary,

I think lasts nights game came down to a few things.

First, Portland is a really good team and has a ton of talent, there's really no denying that. Barring injuries they will probably have a higher seed then us. Not to mention they seem to be a terrible match up for us, and have smoked us the last few years. First preseason game, at home against a rival they are going to want to impress their fans and send a statement.

Next, we kind of have to face the fact that we probably won't be what we fantasized about post 2015 All-Star break Gobert juggernaut fest. I think we were all hoping we'd get back to that form defensively and add in three vets to aid the offense and we'd be this unstoppable force. Last night clearly shows we still have guys with a lot of holes in there games (ex Hood will still struggle I feel unfortunately, Gobert's offensive game is what it is, Exum may take a few years to be able to be a finisher at the rim), and their were a lot of defensive mistakes, it's going to take a while for them to jell. And even when they jell, we still will have some struggles on offense. Even with the holes on the offense I still believe we will be one of the best defensive teams in the league, maybe even the best but not that epic Great Wall of China **** we saw at the end of the 2015 season. Even with that, I'm pumped and excited to see our guys grow this year and hopefully someday into something special.

OD
 
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Ostertag>Duncan said:
Dear Diary,

I think lasts nights game came down to a few things.

First, Portland is a really good team and has a ton of talent, there's really no denying that. Barring injuries they will probably have a higher seed then us. Not to mention they seem to be a terrible match up for us, and have smoked us the last few years. First preseason game, at home against a rival they are going to want to impress their fans and send a statement.

Next, we kind of have to face the fact that we probably won't be what we fantasized about post 2015 All-Star break Gobert juggernaut fest. I think we were all hoping we'd get back to that form defensively and add in three vets to aid the offense and we'd be this unstoppable force. Last night clearly shows we still have guys with a lot of holes in there games (ex Hood will still struggle I feel unfortunately, Gobert's offensive game is what it is, Exum may take a few years to be able to be a finisher at the rim), and their were a lot of defensive mistakes, it's going to take a while for them to jell. And even when they jell, we still will have some struggles on offense. Even with the holes on the offense I still believe we will be one of the best defensive teams in the league, maybe even the best but not that epic Great Wall of China **** we saw at the end of the 2015 season. Even with that, I'm pumped and excited to see our guys grow this year and hopefully someday into something special.

OD
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**** Portland they suck ***. They just give us matchup problems.

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Dear Diary,

Cy just said **** Portland they suck ***.

I'll take that in to consideration next time.

OD
 
I'm still convinced that our best lineups might just be:

Hill
Exum
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Mack
Burks
Hood
Johnson
Lyles

Then throw in Ingles, Neto, and Diaw when needed.

This allows our starters to play tough, tough defense with no holes on that end at all. Spacing on offense would still be okay with G, Ex, and Hill out there, along with 3-Favs. Just give Hayward and Favors all the touches for the first 5 or 6 minutes of the game. Exum, Hayward, and Hill can all play the point essentially, and they can play off each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Then, things get hot and heavy when we sub out Hill and Exum for Burks and Hood, and bring in Lyles for either Favors or Gobert. Go triple wing all over their asses! Mack and Johnson can fill in wherever needed as well.

I really would like Hoods game off of the bench in a Harden role. Plus, that bench would be pretty damn nice offensively, while the starters run through G and Favs and smother the opposition on defense.

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tyklug2013 said:
I'm still convinced that our best lineups might just be:

Hill
Exum
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Mack
Burks
Hood
Johnson
Lyles

Then throw in Ingles, Neto, and Diaw when needed.

This allows our starters to play tough, tough defense with no holes on that end at all. Spacing on offense would still be okay with G, Ex, and Hill out there, along with 3-Favs. Just give Hayward and Favors all the touches for the first 5 or 6 minutes of the game. Exum, Hayward, and Hill can all play the point essentially, and they can play off each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Then, things get hot and heavy when we sub out Hill and Exum for Burks and Hood, and bring in Lyles for either Favors or Gobert. Go triple wing all over their asses! Mack and Johnson can fill in wherever needed as well.

I really would like Hoods game off of the bench in a Harden role. Plus, that bench would be pretty damn nice offensively, while the starters run through G and Favs and smother the opposition on defense.

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It's only one game.
 
tyklug2013 said:
I'm still convinced that our best lineups might just be:

Hill
Exum
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Mack
Burks
Hood
Johnson
Lyles

Then throw in Ingles, Neto, and Diaw when needed.

This allows our starters to play tough, tough defense with no holes on that end at all. Spacing on offense would still be okay with G, Ex, and Hill out there, along with 3-Favs. Just give Hayward and Favors all the touches for the first 5 or 6 minutes of the game. Exum, Hayward, and Hill can all play the point essentially, and they can play off each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Then, things get hot and heavy when we sub out Hill and Exum for Burks and Hood, and bring in Lyles for either Favors or Gobert. Go triple wing all over their asses! Mack and Johnson can fill in wherever needed as well.

I really would like Hoods game off of the bench in a Harden role. Plus, that bench would be pretty damn nice offensively, while the starters run through G and Favs and smother the opposition on defense.

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So are you saying that Hood makes our starting lineup too weak defensively?
 
Rewatched the game today.

First Hood had slow feet defensively. Portland is a tough matchup for Hood but looks at our Wings most of them are better defending small forwards. Namely Hayward, Hood, Ingles and Joe Johnson are too slow to pressure shooting guards and have trouble getting over screens. Sometimes Hayward's anticipation helps him out here. If we cut Chris Johnson we are going to miss this part of his game. Hopefully Exum and/or Burks can help us on quick shooting guards.

Gobert is still a problem offensively.

Exum doesn't ever look to score. He needs to figure how to use his body around the hoop.

We looked rusty. I am ready for the next game.
 
homeytennis said:
It's only one game.
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While true, I've felt this way for awhile. Hood and Hayward are too similar of players IMO, and Hood just isn't very good defensively. His length helps him out in some cases, but he's not very quick laterally.

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fgcamel said:
So are you saying that Hood makes our starting lineup too weak defensively?
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I wouldn't say too weak. He's not Harden or Kanter on the defensive end at all. I just know that inserting Exum at that spot would allow us to play stingy defense on starters, while getting some more bench scoring with Hood as the sixth-man.

That, and Hayward and Favors get a couple more touches in those first and third quarters.

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tyklug2013 said:
I'm still convinced that our best lineups might just be:

Hill
Exum
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Mack
Burks
Hood
Johnson
Lyles

Then throw in Ingles, Neto, and Diaw when needed.

This allows our starters to play tough, tough defense with no holes on that end at all. Spacing on offense would still be okay with G, Ex, and Hill out there, along with 3-Favs. Just give Hayward and Favors all the touches for the first 5 or 6 minutes of the game. Exum, Hayward, and Hill can all play the point essentially, and they can play off each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Then, things get hot and heavy when we sub out Hill and Exum for Burks and Hood, and bring in Lyles for either Favors or Gobert. Go triple wing all over their asses! Mack and Johnson can fill in wherever needed as well.

I really would like Hoods game off of the bench in a Harden role. Plus, that bench would be pretty damn nice offensively, while the starters run through G and Favs and smother the opposition on defense.

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I don't think Hill, Exum, Hayward give us enough scoring though.


I do think we need to give Hood and Johnson time to warm up. They don't look like they're in the groove just yet - but they will be.
 
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