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Kevin Pelton Thinks George Hill Will Get $20 Million in FA

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With how well George Hill has started how much would it take to sign him?
Kevin Pelton (3:26 PM)

Good question. Assuming the All-Stars (Curry, Paul and Lowry) stay put, I think you could make a case for Hill as the top point guard on the market ahead of Jrue Holiday and Jeff Teague. In that case, I think you could see one of the PG-needy teams in free agency (maybe CHI, DAL, NYK, PHI, SAC or a team that's not satisfied with its current option) throw $20 million a year his direction.
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The only team I'm worried about is San Antonio. I'd use our cap space this year to renegotiate and extend him if he'd do it. We could give him something that equates to 3/60 that doesn't mess things up for us financially.
 
Look at the difference in our team when he's on the floor.

Pay him.

bye bye Burks and Diaw.
 
Conley got 5/150... hill 4/80 seems cheap.
 
♪alt13 said:
I think they will get rid of Joe Johnson before Burks.
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If hill is retained Burks is likely gone... would need to get his contract off the books for 2018, but they could move Joe next year then move Burks the following year I guess.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If hill is retained Burks is likely gone... would need to get his contract off the books for 2018, but they could move Joe next year then move Burks the following year I guess.
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It's better to make that decision later for a number of reasons.

Burks value will likely increase after his return.
Hayward could leave. We would look foolish for counting our chickens before they hatched.
Something could happen to one of our young players before 2018.
 
If he's looking for that kind of money, he needs to lead the Jazz pass the 2nd round of the playoffs then we'll talk extension or whatever that's suppose to happen. :cool: lol
 
ye Hill's contract should be eligible for restructuring. The cool thing is that his salary can be reduced by up to 40% next season that way(the extension part of restructuring)
The reason Hill might wanna wait is that under the current CBA he could get an extra year by waiting until next summer.
The tricky factor is that if Hill switches teams, the new team doesn't have bird rights and thus he doesn't get a 5th year.
So if he wants to get the 5th year, he has to stay. If he wants to stay there's still a case to be made to restructure now as the bump in salary for this season could be as high as 13 million
 
They could do a two year deal at that. Any more years and your talking major problems with Hood looking at a max.
 
BTP said:
ye Hill's contract should be eligible for restructuring. The cool thing is that his salary can be reduced by up to 40% next season that way(the extension part of restructuring)
The reason Hill might wanna wait is that under the current CBA he could get an extra year by waiting until next summer.
The tricky factor is that if Hill switches teams, the new team doesn't have bird rights and thus he doesn't get a 5th year.
So if he wants to get the 5th year, he has to stay. If he wants to stay there's still a case to be made to restructure now as the bump in salary for this season could be as high as 13 million
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IIRC we can only give one player a 5th year. It won't be Hill. Also I'm pretty sure that if we extend him he won't get paid for it this season.
 
ncoloradojazz could call up some other teams, throw out his smarts, then tell them how big his penis is and explain how Teague is the superior player, thus driving down market value and we get him on the cheap.
 
Restructure him and give him 23 million this year and about 15 for the next 3 years. That is as good as giving him a 3 year 60 million dollar deal and gets him at a lower price. Do a similar thing with Favors where he is only making 20 million after next year. That way you are able to keep Hill, Hayward, Hood, Favors and Gobert. Hill 15, Hood 25, Hayward 30, Favors 20, Gobert 25. That is about 115 for 5 players (2018-2019) which will likely be just above the Salary cap, but not into luxury (projected 102 for 2017-2018 right now). Trade Burks and improve your draft pick next year to help with depth. If Exum blows up in the next 2 years, you may have to make a decision between him and Hood.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Restructure him and give him 23 million this year and about 15 for the next 3 years. That is as good as giving him a 3 year 60 million dollar deal and gets him at a lower price. Do a similar thing with Favors where he is only making 20 million after next year. That way you are able to keep Hill, Hayward, Hood, Favors and Gobert. Hill 15, Hood 25, Hayward 30, Favors 20, Gobert 25. That is about 115 for 5 players (2018-2019) which will likely be just above the Salary cap, but not into luxury (projected 102 for 2017-2018 right now). Trade Burks and improve your draft pick next year to help with depth. If Exum blows up in the next 2 years, you may have to make a decision between him and Hood.
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If I was George Hill I would be thinking I would get 15 more this season and be giving up about 21 over the next 3 years. So a net loss in potential income of 6 mil. The security would probably worth it. Though we would need to move on from other salary.
 
Qman said:
If I was George Hill I would be thinking I would get 15 more this season and be giving up about 21 over the next 3 years. So a net loss in potential income of 6 mil. The security would probably worth it. Though we would need to move on from other salary.
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I get trying to max out your salary, but at some point you need to be where you are happy and are going to accomplish something. Going to some place like Sacramento is not worth 3-4 million a year if you are earning essentially 20 million a year. Jazz have something going, and can conceivably keep the core of this team together the next 4 year (at least the 5 starters).
 
If they restructure, the total value of this year + his next 4 will be upped compared to the first 4 of a 5 year contract at the end of the season. Otherwise it will make little sense for Hill, as another contract negotiation in 2021 would probably not favorable for him if his body lasts that long.
Let's say a 5 yr contract would be 5 yr 100 million. Thats 80 over the first 4. Then a potential restructure would look like this:
13 extra this year + 76 over the next 4(19 per), resulting in a total extension value of 89 for him. He knows even at age 35 someone might throw 5 at him as a 6/7th man as long as he hitts the 3 ball close to 40% and his length will also compensate for aging to a degree.
So the whole 5 year value in that situation would be 94 for him compared to 100 next summer. Still a net-loss for him of 6.
That's the tricky part of the whole equation. Unless they do some nice frontloaded package the avg of 1 less a year will not be significant for the Jazz payroll. And as highlighted even then he still loses out in the long run because of the current CBA that doesn't allow player-friendly extensions 95% of the time.
Another good thing for him financially in a front loaded package is that inflation works in his favor if he and his advisors invest their new contract and the provision that comes with it in a smart way.
 
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