Jazz @ Nuggets AKA Get Back on Track Game

[fufo]

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[homeytennis]

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This is embarassing. The team could put forth some effort. This reminds me of the Trey Burke, DLeague dudes days.

 

[LogGrad98]

This team is unwatchable right now.

Hood is a mess. Hayward is sloppy and not shooting the ball well.
Withey is not an NBA Center. We clearly miss some energy from Booker/Johnson.
Favors is a lot more important to this team that I was willing to admit.

Hopefully when Hill comes back we can win some more games, but without Favors we arent going to do much.

I don't know we did pretty good without favors at the beginning. Without favors and Hayward in fact.

 

[LogGrad98]

problem is

0 inside threat...gobert has no offense game. 0 post moves, nothing.

teams know the scouting report on gobert. Now that Favors is out teams can just gameplay for our 1 dimensional offense.

It wasn't our offense that lost the game last night. It was the complete lack of defense.

 

[LogGrad98]

To me this is a repeat of last year... and the year before that and and the year before that and the year before that...

We keep waiting for this team to come of age. Supposedly the vets were going to fix that. That hasn't happened. Frankly, I think it's time to admit that this team is seriously flawed. Not enough shooters, no leadership, and zero toughness. I haven't seen anyone but gobert play with any Fire in weeks.

Yeah remember we brought in 3 vets who are going to lead us to the promised land. Not everyone bought into that hype. And without the one vet that is proving to be a true difference maker we are really struggling.

 

[fufo]

This is embarassing. The team could put forth some effort. This reminds me of the Trey Burke, DLeague dudes days.

I think you agree with me.
The problem is not only injuries. Injuries are like half of the problem cake...
Seriously you may see D League teams with better offensive sets and schemes. All i see is summer league stuff. Pick by the center, contested mid range shot by ballhandler. No passing no movement no nothing. It's ridiculous.
And then, how can we be dead last @pace by a large margin when we're playing with the likes of exum hood hayward lyles and gobert.
Come on, this is not the grizzliez or whatever. Why don't we run run run......

 

[jope]

I think you agree with me.
The problem is not only injuries. Injuries are like half of the problem cake...
Seriously you may see D League teams with better offensive sets and schemes. All i see is summer league stuff. Pick by the center, contested mid range shot by ballhandler. No passing no movement no nothing. It's ridiculous.
And then, how can we be dead last @pace by a large margin when we're playing with the likes of exum hood hayward lyles and gobert.
Come on, this is not the grizzliez or whatever. Why don't we run run run......

do you really think that young legs, a high-altitude home court, and athletic players can get out on fast breaks? (sarcasm)

 

[str8line]

I think you agree with me.
The problem is not only injuries. Injuries are like half of the problem cake...
Seriously you may see D League teams with better offensive sets and schemes. All i see is summer league stuff. Pick by the center, contested mid range shot by ballhandler. No passing no movement no nothing. It's ridiculous.
And then, how can we be dead last @pace by a large margin when we're playing with the likes of exum hood hayward lyles and gobert.
Come on, this is not the grizzliez or whatever. Why don't we run run run......

Do our players want to run? Are they unhappy with Quin's offense? Are they too tired to care? How does the front office view the current situation? Is this physical exhaustion, a general malaise, or is it our scheme? Most importantly, is Quin doing enough with what he's got?

 

[fufo]

do you really think that young legs, a high-altitude home court, and athletic players can get out on fast breaks? (sarcasm)

I should not be watching this ******** at 5-6 AM every two-three days. I'd rather see Ricky Ledo put up 37 points [MENTION=2460]Hal[/MENTION]ftime in a Turkish League game, not ****ing my sleep patterns and daily life up for endless hayward hood iso's with mack dribbling the ball for 15 seconds.
It's been like 6 years here and you've probably never saw me. Quin's failures forced me to post more often.

 

[JAZZGASM]

problem is

0 inside threat...gobert has no offense game. 0 post moves, nothing.

teams know the scouting report on gobert. Now that Favors is out teams can just gameplay for our 1 dimensional offense.

Sorry, but that is BS. The problem is the ineffective offense. And the defense is not doing well either. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, yet the offense sets do not take advantage of the team's strengths. As we saw over the last two nights, when teams switch on the screens, these sets are largely ineffective. We need sets that create high percentage shots and allow players to get to the basket. We should be focusing on getting open shots from 3 and in the paint, while positioning our bigs to get offensive rebounds (D'Antoni clearly understands this). Instead, our sets get a large majority of shots from the mid range, which are % wise, the most ineffective.

 

[fufo]

Do our players want to run? Are they unhappy with Quin's offense? Are they too tired to care? How does the front office view the current situation? Is this physical exhaustion, a general malaise, or is it our scheme? Most importantly, is Quin doing enough with what he's got?

Quin's definitely not successful and he should be gone. I'm at a point where I'm about to believe Corbin was not that worse than Snyder. We killed Corbin because of his veteran affair. We were right but at least the jazz weren't looking like a newly formed D-League team when they hit the floor (quin's team have significantly more talent and depth also)

I'm in constant rage mode because we're going to waste our seed #4 chance when the western conf is crappier than ever, thanks to Quin's non existent plan.

Besides all this fiasco, we're also not hustling, not fully concentrated as well. You can't be a top 10 defensive team without a superstar if your offense only relies on stupid iso's. You have to be at least top 3 or top 5 and that's why chicago and denver are blowing us out. Not the injuries. We should be able to beat denver with this squad or chicago at home with jerian grant starting at pg.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow.
I just found out today that there was a game yesterday. First time i can remember that happening in forever. The injuries have sapped my enthusiasm by quite a bit i guess.