remember when our offense looked like this?

[jope]

Dwill was elite.

The offensive talent on those teams is 10x this teams.

offensively...

DW, Boozer > Hayward, Hill, Hood > Korver > Favors (healthy), JJ > baby millsap, AK47, brewer > gobert

pretty even honestly, and more rounded out for this years team. you just cant see it because quin cant get anything out his talent.

 

[jope]

He is 120th all time in the NBA. That is above average.

he was 120th that season in TS%.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

he was 120th that season in TS%.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_career.html

126th all time. You probably didnt bother to even make sure to see if players qualified, probably dude playing 5 games.

That season he was 51st (though it really higher if you take out all the player who barely even played who are ahead of him). 36th if you adjust to make sure players played at least 40 games.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009_advanced.html

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_career.html

126th all time. You probably didnt bother to even make sure to see if players qualified, probably dude playing 5 games.

That season he was 51st (though it really higher if you take out all the player who barely even played who are ahead of him). 36th if you adjust to make sure players played at least 40 games.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009_advanced.html

You could even go further and take out non-shooters, dudes like Joel Prysbillia and Erik Dampier, who never did anything but shots around the basket, if you wanted to see how great Okur was a player who took jumpshots and scored efficiently as ****.

 

[jope]

You put Quin Snyder in Sloan's shoes with Dwill/Okur/Boozer you can create a team that gets buckets with any offensive system because of how talented those 3 are at scoring, spacing, and playmaking.

I'd argue Quin would do better because he wouldnt waste AK's talents away.

Because quin has produced such offensive powerhouses so far

 

[jope]

The crux of the argument is that sloan was able to get low talent players buckets through system and hustle, while Snyder hasnt been able to. Our middle and bottom ends are better than sloans 07 08

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The crux of the argument is that sloan was able to get low talent players buckets through system and hustle, while Snyder hasnt been able to. Our middle and bottom ends are better than sloans 07 08

Your argument has no crux when his system was established on 3 high profile offensive talents which allowed other players to score efficiently. I completely dismantled it when you tried to act like Okur was just some average rotation shooter.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There is a better argument that Sloan's system held the team back more than it helped them.

 

[jope]

Your argument has no crux when his system was established on 3 high profile offensive talents which allowed other players to score efficiently. I completely dismantled it when you tried to act like Okur was just some average rotation shooter.

Bro, besides what dw and boozer became because of sloans system, none of those players were high profile.that's why they ended up in Utah. And to argue that sloan held then back while producing the best offense in the league is laughable

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not a huge fan of what Quin has been running but we cant ignore the fact that he has only had a starting caliber PG for 7 games while he has been here.

Jerry Sloan had a HOF one then followed it up by getting an All-Star/2nd team All NBA PG.

We are just waiting for Quin to get someone who is top 30 at his position lmao.

 

[jope]

I'm not a huge fan of what Quin has been running but we cant ignore the fact that he has only had a starting caliber PG for 7 games while he has been here.

Jerry Sloan had a HOF one then followed it up by getting an All-Star/2nd team All NBA PG.

We are just waiting for Quin to get someone who is top 30 at his position lmao.

It's a fair point. But snyders system isnt pg heavy anyway. He initiates from the 2 and3 a lot. And maybe that's because our pg sucks *** most nights.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's a fair point. But snyders system isnt pg heavy anyway. He initiates from the 2 and3 a lot. And maybe that's because our pg sucks *** most nights.

You answered your own ludicrous statement.