and how many of those DNP's are due to his missing practice or being ineffective during practice because of illness or related reasons????
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and how many of those DNP's are due to his missing practice or being ineffective during practice because of illness or related reasons????
I do not care because I have seen time and again when he gets significant minutes, he is effective. And do you have any info whatsoever to back up your claim? Have any coaches ever said that Fes got a DNP tonight because he was jackpotting again at practice? You no clue that has happened.
He is always 7'1", big, moves well, blocks out, and patrols the paint. He does not need to score to be useful. But Jerry and Jerry Junior had a starting 5 donchya know, and they had to stick to that, despite the results.
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Fess is always good for a game or two a year where he surprises everyone. Yes, he has shown flashes of some pretty nice play over the past 2 years. But his progress has been minimal.
People need to look at the big picture. For every "good" game Fess has, he has 10 games where he either is "sick" with a hangover or jackpots around fouling or dribbling the ball off his foot.
Move on.
Raja, Fess, Price, and Fess need to be off this roster next year. Develop Favors.
People need to look at the big picture. For every "good" game Fess has, he has 10 games where he either is "sick" with a hangover or jackpots around fouling or dribbling the ball off his foot.
Move on.
Raja, Fess, Price, and Fess need to be off this roster next year. Develop Favors.
Mr. McGibblets
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Lol no. I was responding to the post asking:
So no, I was not trying to say he has not been available to start the entire year. Come on man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNIN6uB8McU
Again, you misunderstand and mis-characterize another person's posts. Moe never said he was jackpotting (goofing around) and thus didn't get playing time. He said he was ineffective "because of illness or related reasons." Goofing around is not related to illness.
If you want evidence then go read back through the twitter pages for @tribjazz, @djjazzjody, @utah_jazz, @jonrinehart and others. They often list why Fes will not play or come out a day later and state why he was inactive. I've also heard coaches and KOC say that they want to get Fes out there more except he is often recovering from something. Locke also has stated that "the Jazz" (management, coaches, players? I don't know for sure) have been frustrated at times because when opportunities arise for Fes (Jefferson, Millsap, Elson, etc. are out) that Fes is unable to play and they can't rely on him.
So no, the onus is on you to go get some info showing that the coaches just decide not to play Fes.
I like Fes, probably not as much as sirkicky, but I like him. I just get sick of everyone claiming a giant conspiracy. Do I think the only reason Fes sits out is because of illness, no. But I do think that plays a huge part in why he isn't in game shape, fouls, and can't get more than a few minutes.
Fesenko is a pretty terrible basketball player (sorry, Kicks, but I love a pretty terrible basketball player, too), but I think he's probably the funniest interview the Jazz have ever had: "Fesenko said Bryant's 'kitty cat' and 'teddy bear' comments after the Jazz-Laker game puts him 'on the map. ... Thank you.'"
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billyshelby
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Fes will be gone. If he winds up playing well next year as somebody's backup center, lots of people will content themselves with the idea that his failures here were all his fault. But every good organization has to make some determination on whether a player didn't take advantage of the opportunities given him, or whether he was denied opportunity.
No question Fes has immaturity issues. But there's also no question he should have gotten a consistent rotation role at some point. Especially since we had minutes to give him at a position of need all year.
No question Fes has immaturity issues. But there's also no question he should have gotten a consistent rotation role at some point. Especially since we had minutes to give him at a position of need all year.
NotDeadYet
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Not only did Fes start at C, but Millsap started at SF. Only saw less than half the game on the internet.
I've advocated starting Fes every game thru the end of the season just to see if that helps get his head straight about taking his job (which is NBA basketball!) seriously like most of the workers out there... If he flubs it, I wouldn't resign him next year; and I'd explain this to him up front too...
My impression is the Jazz don't want to start Favors, so we may see more of this lineup; dunno...
I've advocated starting Fes every game thru the end of the season just to see if that helps get his head straight about taking his job (which is NBA basketball!) seriously like most of the workers out there... If he flubs it, I wouldn't resign him next year; and I'd explain this to him up front too...
My impression is the Jazz don't want to start Favors, so we may see more of this lineup; dunno...
I don't need those to know what I can see with my own eyes. Yes, I know he has these little health things that come up too often and that is a valid issue. But it is also quite true that I seem him suited up and on the bench yet he does not get in the game or only at garbage time. How many games this year has he gotten minutes that were meaningful? Very very few. Despite being productive when he gets those minutes.
Darkwing Duck
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He had a good first half. Had a fairly poor second half. Not surprising in the least.
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It's easy to think of Fess and laugh, but he's been improving. Last night I saw what few others did and thats play physical. He understood his role. He knows he has fouls to give and he knows he can make the Lakers feel the pain. Any player that can knee Kobe, throw a ball at him, and knock him on his *** and preventing him from getting an easy lay in or an and-one is alright on this team in my book. We've needed toughness and I'd love to see more Fess on the court in the remaining games.