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Thee jazz fan said:
That's all well and good, but complete players that can score and play defense don't exactly grow on trees.
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More complete players are there if you pick wisely. I realize everyone is flawed to some degree. We aren't trying to find a "perfect player" in this draft,
but I think someone will be available that will be a more complete than those 2.
 
Where are you getting that Burks does not want to play defense? The few games I saw he was giving a good effort and had several steals. All players are flawed even the great ones have flaws, but the great ones work on their flaws so they are not so obvious or they simply become strengths.
 
billyshelby said:
As far as last night goes, the only guy on the entire floor I like is Lamb.
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Apparently, the guy has a 7'4'' wingspan (which is ridiculous for a guy who stands 6'5''...although he looks taller than he's listed IMO).

Also, dude went off during UConn's 11 game win streak to end the season (and capture the NCAA championship):

11 GP
32 MPG
.549 FG
.516 3PT (16 - 31)
.848 FT (28 - 33)
15.3 PPG
4.5 RPG (9 - 41 - 50)
1.5 APG
1.0 SPG
0.8 BPG
1.4 TO

Kid looks legit. If, for whatever reason,he decides to declare, the Jazz should target him at 12 (although, he could easily go top 10). If the Jazz don't move into the top 3, he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
 
cowhide said:
Where are you getting that Burks does not want to play defense? The few games I saw he was giving a good effort and had several steals. All players are flawed even the great ones have flaws, but the great ones work on their flaws so they are not so obvious or they simply become strengths.
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Reading people's comments, and draft profiles. Is he a tough defender? I've never seen him.
Reports seem to be conflicting on his defense. If that is not an issue than we should take a serious look at him.

Also, we need someone with a fairly complete game(no huge weaknesses), or at least one special elite NBA skill.
I don't think Jimmer will be an elite NBA scorer, and if that's the case why draft him? If Burks is NOT a bad defender
he is really intriguing. Other than what people are saying about his 3 pt shot he seems to have a well rounded offensive game.
He might be that wing we need so badly(if he can play defense too- or be an elite scorer).
 
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an exerpt from Aldridge's article on nba.com

https://www.nba.com/2011/news/featu...aldridge-big-board-shooting-guards/index.html

But Burks does need to work on some things, and not just his shooting. He has to stop ignoring the defensive end of the floor. "There's no pride in doing it yet," says a Northwest Division executive.
"He has no interest," the first Northwest scout said of Burks. "He won't go under, through, or behind (screens). He's got some issues. But we draft on talent, and he's very talented. He'll have the ball and he'll break you down. In space, he's (tough) ... great upside if he's willing to work. Something tells me (the work ethic) is not off the charts because he hasn't worked on his body at all. But the holes in his game are fixable."/QUOTE]
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Is there any chance Lamb comes out as well? I'd take him at #6. May it be a reach? I suppose but kid seems that good and like he'd crush it off the curl.
 
I've posted previously about the early entrant deadline to enter (april 24) and then withdraw (May 8)from the draft. It appears that the 2 weeks is not enough time for the teams to scout the players and give them feedback. see : https://www.draftexpress.com/article/Testing-the-NBA-Draft-Waters-May-Never-Be-the-Same-3657/

I wonder if the underclassmen players uncertainity of draft position, the difficulty of navigating the new rules, and the prospect of an extended lock-out will keep players from entering the draft? Will it even matter to the top 12 prospects that will be available to the Jazz?
 
Lamb is going to be good. Think of a Rip Hamilton clone that actually plays defense. Very unlikely he comes out this year unfortunately, but I'll bet he comes out next year and since we're going to suck we can take him then. But I'd be willing to bet that by next year he's a top-5 pick.
 
Hantlers said:
Lamb is going to be good. Think of a Rip Hamilton clone that actually plays defense. Very unlikely he comes out this year unfortunately, but I'll bet he comes out next year and since we're going to suck we can take him then. But I'd be willing to bet that by next year he's a top-5 pick.
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Top 5? That is awfully high. A lot of the incoming freshman will have to stink/not declare for that to happen.
 
NCJazz said:
Top 5? That is awfully high. A lot of the incoming freshman will have to stink/not declare for that to happen.
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Obviously it really depends on which team is picking but the kid has one of the smoothest strokes I've ever seen. He plays in a good offense, he moves well off the ball, he's an average ball handler but he can easily improve that. He's 6'5, pretty athletic and plays great defense. So yes, top 5 pick. He'll average 15-20 ppg next year with a good shooting percentage.
 
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