Sources: Utah has expressed interest in re-acquring Deron Williams

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Several agents are poo-pooing the 2-way deals. They get like 75K when they are in the d league and are only eligible to be called up by one team... a 10-day contract pays a minimum of 50k... Basically any good prospect is likely not going to want to be on a 2-way deal because the increase salary is not enough.

It will piss agents off (which is our number one concern I guess) to put a good second round pick on one of those deals.

Wow agents were critical of something that will pay their clients less money than they wanted their clients paid? Crazy ****. Just google stories of players playing overseas. There are a handful of good overseas jobs and then there are ones that are a complete headache.

 

[Hotdog]

Ya, pretty stupid we didnt make a move. Lou Williams would have been a great pick up for us. We could have easily outbid Houston too.

Thats the Jazz for ya though. This **** is like ground hogs day on Jazzfanz too. Smart people bitch about the Jazz sitting on their hands. The dummies defend the Jazz. We look back and it always turns out that the Jazz should have and could have done something. The next year rolls around. The Jazz are treading water as usual. Same arguments are made. Same results. Weeeeee. Round and round we go. Where this circus ends, nobody knows.

I'm so tired of hearing about how important George Hill is. The dude has done squat for this team or his career in general, and morons want to pay him 20 million a year. For a guy who barely plays and is getting older by the minute. But **** Lou Williams he is too cheap, on a short deal and only makes every shot he takes practically. But defense? Oh wait, we have freaking Gobert. The whole reason why we have good defense and could work with Lou Williams.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Wow agents were critical of something that will pay their clients less money than they wanted their clients paid? Crazy ****. Just google stories of players playing overseas. There are a handful of good overseas jobs and then there are ones that are a complete headache.

I'm guessing the players feel the same way genius... basically what I'm saying is those are likely going to be spots for guys that don't get drafted not picks in the 30s-40s of the second round. Even if they earn the max it is like 275k... not the $1M that second rounders will get in the new CBA. So even if you promise to keep them here for the max time they lose 75% of their salary... only fringe guys like Wallace, Paige, and others will accept that. Even if they don't have options overseas.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm guessing the players feel the same way genius... basically what I'm saying is those are likely going to be spots for guys that don't get drafted not picks in the 30s-40s of the second round. Even if they earn the max it is like 275k... not the $1M that second rounders will get in the new CBA. So even if you promise to keep them here for the max time they lose 75% of their salary... only fringe guys like Wallace, Paige, and others will accept that. Even if they don't have options overseas.

It will basically be guys that Homeytennis knows about.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm guessing the players feel the same way genius... basically what I'm saying is those are likely going to be spots for guys that don't get drafted not picks in the 30s-40s of the second round. Even if they earn the max it is like 275k... not the $1M that second rounders will get in the new CBA. So even if you promise to keep them here for the max time they lose 75% of their salary... only fringe guys like Wallace, Paige, and others will accept that. Even if they don't have options overseas.

You are probably wrong. We will see though.

 

[Coach Ellis]

you are one of my favorite posters, but you have a truly awful way of acknowledging posters who disagree with your perspective. It's right up there with Cy.

I don't think it was a criticism of my post. Cappy has a sarcastic streak.

My opinion is that the Jazz should try to add a player who can contribute more this offseason than Shelvin Mack. With the cap space they have, I'd claim both Deron Williams and Andrew Bogut. . . cutting Shelvin Mack and Jeff Withey in the process.

Gobert / Bogut
Favors / Diaw / Lyles
Hayward / JJ
JJ / Hood / Burks
Hill / Williams / Exum

Neto and Bolomboy finish the season with the Stars.

I'd do whatever I have to to get Favors, Hood and Hill healthy and rested. Even if it means shutting Favors down until a week before the playoffs and getting Hood and Hill (and probably JJ) extra rest.

I know that Bogut and DWill would contribute more than Withey and Mack. . .

It's a 25 game rental and the playoffs. They're free to leave next offseason.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You are probably wrong. We will see though.

Why am I probably wrong do tell? you are probably wrong...

See I can fling poo too.

Look I'm 90% certain we have effed up our cap situation the last two years... I'd love for DL to pull something out of his hat and prove me wrong here because I love the Jazz.

 

[franklin]

Dave McMenamin
ESPN Staff Writer


Deron Williams, interestingly enough, is represented by Jeff Schwartz -- the same agent that Kevin Love, Kyle Korver and Richard Jefferson employ. It could take some maneuvering on his part to make sure no other teams put in a waiver bid on Williams if his client's intention is to end up in Cleveland.

Can Cleveland even sign the guy?

How much was D.Will bought out for? His contract was $9 million and the rumors I see say Dallas is giving him 2.5. Why would Deron oblige Dallas and leave 6.5 on the table if he and his agent don't have an unspoken deal with a team willing to give him at least the remaining 6.5 plus a few valuable years of extension?

Cleveland is over the cap. They cannot pick up Williams on waivers and, as far as I can see, they have no exceptions other than the standard vet minimum.

So, if this buyout rumor is true, nobody picks up the waiver (zero chance of happening IMO), Cleveland cannot sign him if my assumptions are correct post-waiver, then who is the team offering him a better deal to compensate for the 6.5 million he gave up in Dallas?

Houston bros.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why am I probably wrong do tell? you are probably wrong...

See I can fling poo too.

Look I'm 90% certain we have effed up our cap situation the last two years... I'd love for DL to pull something out of his hat and prove me wrong here because I love the Jazz.

Like I said, we will see soon enough.

 

[NAOS]

I don't think it was a criticism of my post. Cappy has a sarcastic streak.

My opinion is that the Jazz should try to add a player who can contribute more this offseason than Shelvin Mack. With the cap space they have, I'd claim both Deron Williams and Andrew Bogut. . . cutting Shelvin Mack and Jeff Withey in the process.

Gobert / Bogut
Favors / Diaw / Lyles
Hayward / JJ
JJ / Hood / Burks
Hill / Williams / Exum

Neto and Bolomboy finish the season with the Stars.

I'd do whatever I have to to get Favors, Hood and Hill healthy and rested. Even if it means shutting Favors down until a week before the playoffs and getting Hood and Hill (and probably JJ) extra rest.

I know that Bogut and DWill would contribute more than Withey and Mack. . .

It's a 25 game rental and the playoffs. They're free to leave next offseason.

he was using your post as a soap box. Not targeting you specifically, I agree.

 

[David Stern]

Best Buy rumors are that he's currently in town . . .

(Heard on a Facebook thread.) No idea if true, but it makes sense since he has no need to be in Dallas.

Yeah if you didn't see him at a Best Buy then this is obviously not true.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can Cleveland even sign the guy?

How much was D.Will bought out for? His contract was $9 million and the rumors I see say Dallas is giving him 2.5. Why would Deron oblige Dallas and leave 6.5 on the table if he and his agent don't have an unspoken deal with a team willing to give him at least the remaining 6.5 plus a few valuable years of extension?

Cleveland is over the cap. They cannot pick up Williams on waivers and, as far as I can see, they have no exceptions other than the standard vet minimum.

So, if this buyout rumor is true, nobody picks up the waiver (zero chance of happening IMO), Cleveland cannot sign him if my assumptions are correct post-waiver, then who is the team offering him a better deal to compensate for the 6.5 million he gave up in Dallas?

Houston bros.

Dallas waived him. He has 48 hours to clear waivers. After that he is a FA and Cleveland can sign him to vet minimum.

I think Philly, Brooklyn, Denver, and Utah (might be a few other crappy teams) have enough space to outright claim his 9 million. It doesnt look like anyone is going to claim him though, so he will most likely just sign with Cleveland as his camp has reportedly expressed interest in doing.