President Assad gasses and Donald fiddles

[The Thriller]

So this happened

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/middleeast/idlib-syria-attack/index.html

Donald's response? He blamed obama. Remember now, obama wanted permission to go after Assad. The GOP controlled congress said no.

Donald blames obama for being weak yet tweeted this a few years back:

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[Siro]

Your party cheerleading is extremely tedious.

 

[The Thriller]

Your party cheerleading is extremely tedious.

I'm sorry, but I feel for those who are being slaughtered in Syria. I find it deplorable that after a crime such as this that Donald blames president obama for this. Donald wanted the White House. What are his solutions? Do nothing? That's at least a resolution. However, pointing the finger as a response to these actions accomplishes nothing.

It's deplorable how Donald is directing our foreign policy.

 

[babe]

I'm sorry, but I feel for those who are being slaughtered in Syria. I find it deplorable that after a crime such as this that Donald blames president obama for this. Donald wanted the White House. What are his solutions? Do nothing? That's at least a resolution. However, pointing the finger as a response to these actions accomplishes nothing.

It's deplorable how Donald is directing our foreign policy.

While I actually know nothing about the Middle East or world politics, that I am really certain about, I am certain that you know less. Why do you believe a lying rag/press retailer like CNN. It's apparent to me that they are not objective reporters at all. Pretty sure if they say it, it's gotta be false.

I can think of some good reasons to believe that Obama was setting us up for another great war in the region. I think George Soros/Rockefeller political activists like yourself went into Ukraine to destabilize the country and work to overthrow Russia's nominally free pocket toy ally.... In negotiating the nuclear reduction treaty some years ago, it was part of the deal that NATO and the West would not encroach on Ukraine to disturb
Russia's immediate neighbor. But Soros hired thugs and paid them to go bust up that deal. Now, all Putin is trying to do is protect Russian nationals and keep his Black sea access in Crimea.

Iran has also been a closer ally to Russia, but Obama threw billions of US taxpayer money at that fascist regime trying to create an influence zone more open to the US I suppose, or open up another spigot for mass emigration towards the US. I have Iranian friends and I know there are millions of westernized Iranians that would really want to get their country back, but that is not what Obama is doing, he's not going to overthrow a worse tyrannical regime than Syria's Assad. It looks to me like he's just terrorist-friendly and wants to give more money to terrorists. More destabilization, bro.

Not sure I believe anything CNN says. You'd be doing better thinking if you didn't buy their pig news without looking at it carefully.

 

[The Thriller]

While I actually know nothing about the Middle East or world politics, that I am really certain about, I am certain that you know less. Why do you believe a lying rag/press retailer like CNN. It's apparent to me that they are not objective reporters at all. Pretty sure if they say it, it's gotta be false.

I can think of some good reasons to believe that Obama was setting us up for another great war in the region. I think George Soros/Rockefeller political activists like yourself went into Ukraine to destabilize the country and work to overthrow Russia's nominally free pocket toy ally.... In negotiating the nuclear reduction treaty some years ago, it was part of the deal that NATO and the West would not encroach on Ukraine to disturb
Russia's immediate neighbor. But Soros hired thugs and paid them to go bust up that deal. Now, all Putin is trying to do is protect Russian nationals and keep his Black sea access in Crimea.

Iran has also been a closer ally to Russia, but Obama threw billions of US taxpayer money at that fascist regime trying to create an influence zone more open to the US I suppose, or open up another spigot for mass emigration towards the US. I have Iranian friends and I know there are millions of westernized Iranians that would really want to get their country back, but that is not what Obama is doing, he's not going to overthrow a worse tyrannical regime than Syria's Assad. It looks to me like he's just terrorist-friendly and wants to give more money to terrorists. More destabilization, bro.

Not sure I believe anything CNN says. You'd be doing better thinking if you didn't buy their pig news without looking at it carefully.

Literally all major news outlets are reporting this. Including some of the more obscure right wing outlets. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Here, let me educate you:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...ma-administrations-weakness-and-irresolution/
https://www.apnews.com/0bbfce47f71c...attack-kills-dozens-in-Syria,-US-blames-Assad
https://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/...-attack-in-syria-hospital-reportedly-hit.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/chemical-attack-syria-170404195457304.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...wn-where-toxic-gas-and-shelling-were-reported
https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/leahy-we-should-go-after-war-criminal-assad-913986115594
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39499364
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...arack-obama-syria-chemical-weapons/100038920/
https://www.nationalreview.com/arti...pital-assad-obama-trump-putin-confront-russia

Any more lame *** arguments for me to shred? Time to go to sleep Babe. Do some research if you're going to do battle with me next time. Night!

 

[Douchebag K]

While I actually know nothing about the Middle East or world politics, that I am really certain about, I am certain that you know less. Why do you believe a lying rag/press retailer like CNN. It's apparent to me that they are not objective reporters at all. Pretty sure if they say it, it's gotta be false.

I can think of some good reasons to believe that Obama was setting us up for another great war in the region. I think George Soros/Rockefeller political activists like yourself went into Ukraine to destabilize the country and work to overthrow Russia's nominally free pocket toy ally.... In negotiating the nuclear reduction treaty some years ago, it was part of the deal that NATO and the West would not encroach on Ukraine to disturb
Russia's immediate neighbor. But Soros hired thugs and paid them to go bust up that deal. Now, all Putin is trying to do is protect Russian nationals and keep his Black sea access in Crimea.

Iran has also been a closer ally to Russia, but Obama threw billions of US taxpayer money at that fascist regime trying to create an influence zone more open to the US I suppose, or open up another spigot for mass emigration towards the US. I have Iranian friends and I know there are millions of westernized Iranians that would really want to get their country back, but that is not what Obama is doing, he's not going to overthrow a worse tyrannical regime than Syria's Assad. It looks to me like he's just terrorist-friendly and wants to give more money to terrorists. More destabilization, bro.

Not sure I believe anything CNN says. You'd be doing better thinking if you didn't buy their pig news without looking at it carefully.

but this guy knows everything about everything, he's an academic Get informed. Educate yourself.

 

[The Thriller]

but this guy knows everything about everything, he's an academic Get informed. Educate yourself.

So do you really think that obama and George soros organized this?

 

[LogGrad98]

I'm sorry, but I feel for those who are being slaughtered in Syria. I find it deplorable that after a crime such as this that Donald blames president obama for this. Donald wanted the White House. What are his solutions? Do nothing? That's at least a resolution. However, pointing the finger as a response to these actions accomplishes nothing.

It's deplorable how Donald is directing our foreign policy.

But you are a cheerleader for Sadam. Your hypocrisy knows only the bounds of total blind fealty to the DNC.

 

[♪alt13]

I'm sorry, but I feel for those who are being slaughtered in Syria. I find it deplorable that after a crime such as this that Donald blames president obama for this. Donald wanted the White House. What are his solutions? Do nothing? That's at least a resolution. However, pointing the finger as a response to these actions accomplishes nothing.

It's deplorable how Donald is directing our foreign policy.

Really you do? Reading your post you seem mostly upset about Obama's reputation being slandered. What do you want Trump to do for Syria? Do you want him to go to war with the regime? Do you want him to get in a pissing match with Putin and the Ayatollah? Aren't you the one that bitches about us arming the Kurds? You know the most important counterweight in the country.

 

[JimLes]

Why do you believe a lying rag/press retailer like CNN. It's apparent to me that they are not objective reporters at all. Pretty sure if they say it, it's gotta be false.

I have Iranian friends and I know there are millions of westernized Iranians that would really want to get their country back

Right. CNN is a lying rag but your Iranian friends(who are naturally proof that you're not islamophobic or racist) are a legitimate, trusted source.

Nothing quite like anecdotal evidence to really spur an internet debate.

 

[reignman40]

Right. CNN is a lying rag but your Iranian friends(who are naturally proof that you're not islamophobic or racist) are a legitimate, trusted source.

Nothing quite like anecdotal evidence to really spur an internet debate.

Are you saying Islam isn't a problem in this world?

 

[Siro]

Are you saying Islam isn't a problem in this world?

Who doesn't. But do you know why?

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm sorry, but I feel for those who are being slaughtered in Syria. I find it deplorable that after a crime such as this that Donald blames president obama for this. Donald wanted the White House. What are his solutions? Do nothing? That's at least a resolution. However, pointing the finger as a response to these actions accomplishes nothing.

It's deplorable how Donald is directing our foreign policy.

well its their own CULTURE. it's their own business!


what can you do! if you give them democracy they will spit it back in your face!

certain people and cultures are not enlightened enough to function outside of stern dictatorship!

thye do not know the principle of liberty! personal responsibility! and working to acquire private property!

 

[DutchJazzer]

maybe some day these culture swill become enlightened and fight for their own liberty! for now this culture consist of men running to other countries as refugees while leaving their women and daughters behind in HELLHOLES!

 

[DutchJazzer]

and btw people are not ready for war.
americans have gone soft.

if you go to war you go on it! have a mission and accomplish it.

but the people don't want that, and the military industrial complex also does not want it!


if you go to war on a country you better be prepared to do anything and everything that is necessary and that includes dropping an a bomb on those SOB'S

are any of you calling to go to war including you thriller to drop a bomb on Syria? NO then dont advocate for usa to do something!


this whole winning the hearts and minds in war is not working. the us has not won a war since wwII

 

[Red]

Assad is to blame. Russia is complicit, but America has also unleashed some god almighty firepower in the Middle East, and for several administrations now. Were not doing ourselves proud in Mosul these days. But this is all on Assad.

And maybe he's testing Trump. As McCain put it:

"Bashar Assad and his friends, the Russians, take note of what Americans say. I'm sure they took note of what our secretary of state said just the other day, I'm sure they're encouraged to know that the United States is withdrawing and seeking some kind of new arrangement with the Russians."

Of course, McCain has wanted greater involvement of the United States in Syria all along. But, we did just say Assad is the reality, and that we need to accept that as the political reality, and go along with Russia on this. I can see that Assad could see that as a green light to do as he pleases, including chemicals. If Obama ignored the "red line", Assad can only feel more emboldened by Trump as President.

As far as Trump blaming Obama, Trump needs to realize he is the President now, not Obama. And it's the Trump administration saying we have to accept Assad. Blaming Obama when the attack is coming right after the Trump people are saying Assad is the reality we must accept doesn't make Obama the man in charge. It's up to Trump to respond to Assad now. It's Trump's turn. Obama had his turn in office. It's Trump's turn. The Commander in Chief is now Donald Trump. Don't drag out Obama as a prop. Stand up and be heard, Mr. Trump. It's your stage, now. Act like it.

And Trump is busy getting us more involved in Syria. According to Sen. Chris Murphy of Ct., Trump is dragging us into another ground war in Syria, and nobody is really talking about that at all. Here's a statement from Sen. Murphy on the subject of Trump committing more troops to Syria:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...us_58d5d3f5e4b0f633072b37db?ln16dodnfabutyb9&

 

[Red]

California could experience a bad earthquake tomorrow(God forbid!), and the first thing Trump would do is blame Obama....

 

[LogGrad98]

California could experience a bad earthquake tomorrow(God forbid!), and the first thing Trump would do is blame Obama....

I agree with both of your posts. But this is pretty standard rhetoric for most administrations in their first year. Remind everyone how terrible the last guy was so they look better at the outset. And promising to undo what the other guy had done is also pretty standard. Trump is taking it all to a new low but the script is generally the same.

 

[Stoked]

California could experience a bad earthquake tomorrow(God forbid!), and the first thing Trump would do is blame Obama....

Yup, kind of like how Bush got blamed for everything. Politics.

On the Syrian angle of the thread. I'm not in favor of going after Assad and fighting Syrian, Lebanese, Iranian and Russian forces. I'm not.

IMO, the primary focus of America's involvement in Syria should be brokering an agreement between Turkey and the Kurds.

 

[Red]

It's no surprise if someone like myself finds Trump's response lacking. But, really, he's been trotting out Obama to suit himself ever since reminding everyone his investigators in Hawaii are looking into the birth controversy, and we "won't believe what they are finding." Give it a rest already with trotting out Obama.

In the meantime, Trump is the President, and the world is awaiting what kind of leader he is going to be. I don't believe the rest of the world, friend or foe, is much interested in seeing him use Obama as his whipping boy still again. I'm certainly not saying we must go to war against Assad, but Trump cannot just avoid the fact that any foreign policy crisis now is happening on Trump's watch, not on Obama's watch. And ignoring that basic fact is what made his statement yesterday less then stellar.

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/05/5227...orld-awaits-what-kind-of-leader-trump-will-be

"President Trump issued a remarkable statement following a Syrian gas attack U.S. officials say was leveled by that country's leader against his own people.

Some 40 words of the short, 78-word statement blamed former President Obama for inaction.

"These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration's weakness and irresolution," the statement read, in part. "President Obama said in 2012 that he would establish a 'red line' against the use of chemical weapons and then did nothing."

Obama declining to act when Syrian President Assad crossed the "red line" was arguably the low point of Obama's presidency when it came to his handling of foreign policy.


But it's not like Trump called for action back then; just the opposite, as NPR's Tamara Keith reports. And Trump is not calling for action now — even after an attack that killed dozens with horrific images emerging. The new American president is being tested on the world stage, as this attack comes just days after the White House said Assad's ouster is not its priority. It also raises questions about Trump's support for autocracies and authoritarian regimes — and whether he can lead the world with moral clarity and authority as U.S. presidents have done for decades."