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No Barnes = Weaker Draft, so would you sell back NJ's 1st?

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PrinceJL

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Barnes isn't coming out & since this draft is just thin, how many people would swap our 1st (#12ish) back to NJ for their '12 1st?

Take into consideration that next year (deeper class) that we have GS's 1st (top 7 protected) & we can possibly lose our 1st to MIN (top 14 protected).

BTW, i dont know how to make a poll.
 
That's tough. My gut tells me no but I still think the chances of NJ making the playoffs next year are below average and that they're likely to once again be a bottom 10 team. I'd lean toward no I think though.
 
I suspect NJ would want some form of protection (or a cash transfer) on a swap like that. Otherwise it looks like a straight Vegas challenge.
 
It doesn't really change much for the Jazz, because Barnes would be picked third. So unless the lottery balls fell our way, Barnes entrance would have just pushed another Euro down to us. Chances are now only one of the three elite euros will be on the board (Kanter, Jonas, Biyombo). The only non euro pick worth taking at 6 is Knight. Just say no to Walker and Jones. It will prob look something like this.

Irving
Williams
Jonas
Knight
Kanter
Jazz (Biyombo or any of the above not picked yet)
 
No, just draft the two BPA. If we still suck next year, we will be in great position to get some potential stars.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
No, just draft the two BPA. If we still suck next year, we will be in great position to get some potential stars.
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Yeah I second that actually...

I would have to say no to a swap because who knows how good the Nets could be with a healthy D-Will? He'll be more motivated than ever having not made it into the playoffs this year. Also it's likely Prokhorov would sign and/or trade for other free agents to try & get D-Will to sign an extension.

Whether or not we tank next year to get into the lottery is another questions for another day......
 
I'm still hoping for the Jazz to pick 1st and 2nd this year. :)

Soooo until the lottery is completed I would say you don't trade either pick.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Well most of the BPA candidates have went back to school :), so the BPA now becomes a huge crap shoot among euros with little to go on.
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... which means our chances for getting into the lottery for 2012 will be better - which is what we want ultimately isn't it? :)
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
That's tough. My gut tells me no but I still think the chances of NJ making the playoffs next year are below average and that they're likely to once again be a bottom 10 team. I'd lean toward no I think though.
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Indiana made the playoffs with just 37 wins. Deron was hurt when he was traded and the Nets still had a shot. Humphries has finally matured and is doing the dirty work and there's a dominat 5 and 1 in place. I'd be shocked if they DON'T make the playoffs next season - unless they purposely stand pat to go after the bigger fish in 2012.

Barnes doesn't make or break the draft. There are still some very good players available. Maybe not stars, but decent complementary pieces.
 
Jazz4ever said:
It doesn't really change much for the Jazz, because Barnes would be picked third. So unless the lottery balls fell our way, Barnes entrance would have just pushed another Euro down to us. Chances are now only one of the three elite euros will be on the board (Kanter, Jonas, Biyombo). The only non euro pick worth taking at 6 is Knight. Just say no to Walker and Jones. It will prob look something like this.

Irving
Williams
Jonas
Knight
Kanter
Jazz (Biyombo or any of the above not picked yet)
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totally agree
 
Biyombo is not a Euro, he is African. How would you feel if someone called you a Canadian when you are from America?
 
Edgewriter said:
Why suck another year? I could care less about the 2012 draft. I want to watch the Jazz compete right away.
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Well - you can't help it if there's no decent player to choose from!

Also imagine a shortened season - say 40 games - it could be short and painless. Before you know it ...

whoof! It's DRAFT TIME!!!

And just imagine who'll be available - Sullinger, Barnes, Jones, Rivers, etc, etc..
 
GlassEater said:
Indiana made the playoffs with just 37 wins. Deron was hurt when he was traded and the Nets still had a shot. Humphries has finally matured and is doing the dirty work and there's a dominat 5 and 1 in place. I'd be shocked if they DON'T make the playoffs next season - unless they purposely stand pat to go after the bigger fish in 2012.

Barnes doesn't make or break the draft. There are still some very good players available. Maybe not stars, but decent complementary pieces.
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Lopez is a dominant 5? Okay.

Complimentary pieces? We have the 6th and the 12th picks and we want to settle for complimentary pieces? Jesus. You win with stars in this league. Those are tough to find and Barnes could be one. Don't dismiss the chance to get him. We can get complimentary pieces via free agency or in the 2nd round.

You'd be shocked if the Nets don't make the playoffs? That's absurd. Surprised I could buy but to make it sound as if they have everything in place to easily make the playoffs is ridiculous. Boston (even as old as they are), Orlando, Miami, and Chicago are locks to make the playoffs. I think Atlanta and the Knicks are just about locks too. That leaves two spots. I personally think Indy is much, much better (and deeper) than NJ so they'd be my 7th team. Who knows what to think of the Sixers? I could see them falling out of the playoffs but there's no reason to say they couldn't make it again, or that Milwaukee couldn't get back in. I could see Washington making a solid leap next year. Heck, Charlotte and Detroit had better records than the Nets this year too. There's way too many teams who have proven something with W's to think NJ's a lock to get in next year, though I could see it.
 
Nets will make playoffs next year. Barnes is NOT worth trying to tank a season or trade picks til next year anyway. BPA and go with it..
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Well - you can't help it if there's no decent player to choose from!

Also imagine a shortened season - say 40 games - it could be short and painless. Before you know it ...

whoof! It's DRAFT TIME!!!

And just imagine who'll be available - Sullinger, Barnes, Jones, Rivers, etc, etc..
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Jone Rivers? I thought she was old and made of plastic.
 
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