Use YOUR brain for a minute. Comey has no fondness for liberals and in fact (a) might have cost Hillary the election, and (b) said some pretty damaging things about the Obama administration in his testimony today as well.
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
Use YOUR brain for a minute. Comey has no fondness for liberals and in fact (a) might have cost Hillary the election, and (b) said some pretty damaging things about the Obama administration in his testimony today as well.
I believe so. It was an inappropriate request, but not especially damning. And Comey testified that he didn't do it because, among other things, he felt it would have required him to issue a public statement of correction should that situation ever change.
That's about the worst thing, yes. Obstruction of justice certainly seems possible. Whether the House/Senate would use it to impeach Trump, probably not unless additional damaging things come out.
Police/law enforcement have to point to the law book to identify the crime they are investigating, to get a warrant or even make a traffic stop. "Obstruction of Justice" in an investigation which has no underlying crime would not be a sustainable legal charge. Law enforcement harassing anyone with legal proceedings without pointing to the crime alleged in the US(or State) code, is itself illegal....
So far, I have not seen evidence of any crime anyone is obstructing justice about. Dutch is right on that.
The United States, and NATO, have broken the START treaty with Russia on leaving Ukraine non-aligned, and Soros was financing agitators to influence Ukrainian elections and get Putin's ally out of office. I believe Putin is a rational actor on the world stage representing Russian interests. I see no reason to think for an instant he would not attempt to win friends in the US government and influence them towards his objectives. He is not an ideological communist but more of a practical man, an operator and manipulator. If what Russia has been doing is anything different, really, from what China or even the North Koreans are doing, I would think THAT strange.
Every high-level official in any way concerned with international relations has got a full calendar, day in and day out, of meetings with people who have their own interests and agendas at heart, and are in every way attempting to influence US policy. I believe that our relations with Britain are by far the most extensive, and the most complicated. I have no doubt that GB has been doing ten times the influence peddling anyone else has done....
collusion, to be a crime, would have to amount to treason, and we have not been prosecuting treason since McCarthy. We are in the global governance epoch already, folks.
And what would be "treason" if deliberate campaigns to eliminate some unwanted element of our outdated Constitution is not.
nah, this is smoke and mirrors folks. Smoke and mirrors. Some people are angry the election did not go their way.
Beyond that, I am concerned that the anti-Russia fear-mongering is part of a general public psy-ops strategy intended to provoke a war.
So far, I have not seen evidence of any crime anyone is obstructing justice about. Dutch is right on that.
The United States, and NATO, have broken the START treaty with Russia on leaving Ukraine non-aligned, and Soros was financing agitators to influence Ukrainian elections and get Putin's ally out of office. I believe Putin is a rational actor on the world stage representing Russian interests. I see no reason to think for an instant he would not attempt to win friends in the US government and influence them towards his objectives. He is not an ideological communist but more of a practical man, an operator and manipulator. If what Russia has been doing is anything different, really, from what China or even the North Koreans are doing, I would think THAT strange.
Every high-level official in any way concerned with international relations has got a full calendar, day in and day out, of meetings with people who have their own interests and agendas at heart, and are in every way attempting to influence US policy. I believe that our relations with Britain are by far the most extensive, and the most complicated. I have no doubt that GB has been doing ten times the influence peddling anyone else has done....
collusion, to be a crime, would have to amount to treason, and we have not been prosecuting treason since McCarthy. We are in the global governance epoch already, folks.
And what would be "treason" if deliberate campaigns to eliminate some unwanted element of our outdated Constitution is not.
nah, this is smoke and mirrors folks. Smoke and mirrors. Some people are angry the election did not go their way.
Beyond that, I am concerned that the anti-Russia fear-mongering is part of a general public psy-ops strategy intended to provoke a war.
DutchJazzer
Banned
that's why i keep asking what's the crime?
i see npo crime! and trump has every right to fire anybody in the executive BRANCH
Zombie
Well-Known Member
After 911 the FBI became much more involved in counter intelligence ops as well as law enforcement. They are spearheading the Russia inquiry so it would make no sense whatsoever for them to be excluded from what the appropriate response and future preparations should be.
At the very least it very possible, perhaps even likely that Michael Flynn committed a crime. If/when he is charged will you change your opinion?
Cappy_Smurf
Well-Known Member
It absolutely blows my mind, after all the kicking and screaming some people did over Hillary's emails, those same people are just so sure there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about with Trump's Russian connections.
Certi-****ing-fiable.
Certi-****ing-fiable.
DutchJazzer
Banned
their is har devidenc eof criminially clinton!
have yet to see any credible russia evidence!
notice the e-mails wher enot disputed, people said the wikileaks and all was jsut about the "unlawfull" way of obtaining the,m!
and clinton wa sunder investigation when she destroyed her emails!
trump has ever right to fire comey. especially if after 3 times asked if he was under investigation!
also trump can direct the executive branch any which way he wants within the law. and firing comey is his god dammed right ebstowed upon him by 60+ million people! even the killary clinton people wanted him fired!
Sounds like you dont understand what obstruction of justice is and what allegations are being made, even if he is innocent of everything regarding Russia and anything else there is still very solid evidence of obstruction of justice, which is a serious problem. He does have the right to fire Comey, he does not have the right to obstruct an investigation.
So what if Trump threatened him to shape up or ship out? Maybe Comey got worried over his job an started plotting!
Trump DID NOT fire him for Trump. Again Trump fired him on recommendation from the DOJ! You want the FBI politicized?
Trump should be praised for this Presidential action to PRESERVE the Constitution not crucified! USE YOUR BRAIN!
There is no evidence you are wrong Trumpophobe