Woj: Celtics working to land both Gordon Hayward and Paul George

[Eminence]

I'll be honest, if we got Crowder+ in a S&T I wouldn't be completely heart broken. Dang good player, great deal.

 

[stitches]

So are we good with standing pat until his decision? We, obviously, lose cap space after July 1 and lose the Diaw team option trade chip.

What's the move you think that will make Hayward stay? Do you think adding Ricky Rubio sways him one way or the other?

 

[enchilada_style]

Just because Danny wants doesnt mean Danny gets.

 

[MTS]

There won't be a sign and trade with Hayward. If Gordon is making this move to win now, he isn't going to require Boston to blow assets on getting him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I would reverse those - the second worst thing is if he leaves. The worst thing is if they make short term moves to appease him and he leaves.

It was clunky as I was writing... I was considering them independent bad things but you are correct sir.

Basically if u think he's leaning towards leaving then don't chase good assets after bad.

The exception to me is Beverly. If u can get him for the OKC pick do it. He could be moved later for equivalent value if there is an injury or a team misses out on a FA target.

Or u keep him... just build a whole team of mother effers Bev, Ingles, Gobert, and I think mitchell will end up being a bulldawg... he seems Hungry!

 

[Eminence]

There won't be a sign and trade with Hayward. If Gordon is making this move to win now, he isn't going to require Boston to blow assets on getting him.

They can't get both Hayward and George without trading away pieces. A S&T isn't the craziest thing (though Indy has a better chance at good pieces).

 

[MDAV28]

What's the move you think that will make Hayward stay? Do you think adding Ricky Rubio sways him one way or the other?

I don't necessarily, I think the moves would be in FA (resigning Hill, Ingles, Millsap deal possibly?). Maybe a move for Danny Green could help?

 

[stitches]

I'll be honest, if we got Crowder+ in a S&T I wouldn't be completely heart broken. Dang good player, great deal.

I'm only interested in him as an asset to deal in a future trade. People fell head over heals in love with him last year when in reality he's an average role player.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What's the move you think that will make Hayward stay? Do you think adding Ricky Rubio sways him one way or the other?

That's the problem but there has been enough smoke to that type of rumor for me to believe that PG is a concern. I almost want to get one just so he can't use that as an excuse. I want to make this as hard as possible for him.

I would wait on Rubio... I think we could do a sign and trade with him and hill if Hayward left. Rubio would fit in perfectly in our 45 win treadmill team.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They can't get both Hayward and George without trading away pieces. A S&T isn't the craziest thing (though Indy has a better chance at good pieces).

Bradley crowder likely go to Indiana for PG in the scenario being discussed. Can we do the 5th year and sign and trade... idk anymore but I think it's a no.

 

[stitches]

It was clunky as I was writing... I was considering them independent bad things but you are correct sir.

Basically if u think he's leaning towards leaving then don't chase good assets after bad.

The exception to me is Beverly. If u can get him for the OKC pick do it. He could be moved later for equivalent value if there is an injury or a team misses out on a FA target.

Or u keep him... just build a whole team of mother effers Bev, Ingles, Gobert, and I think mitchell will end up being a bulldawg... he seems Hungry!

If we lose Hayward and Hill, why do you want Beverley? What does he accomplish for us, besides making our pick next year worse and taking away an OKC pick we can use to move up if we are not at the very top? We have Exum and Mitchell who are both defensive minded prospects and we get Beverley to clog their minutes in a year when we are not fighting for anything realistically?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We might do a sign and trade for a minor asset just to acquire a trade exception... although if we operate under the cap when Hayward leaves then it would go away.

Guys... it's all or nothing at this point... ain't no baby splitting.