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24 Hours until that 17 million disappears.....

I think I understand what people are saying now, you represent it well, but I think others are misrepresenting it.

The salary floor is $84.7. If a team is below the salary floor, they have to take the difference and divide it among the players. The Jazz are a few million under the salary floor, so they will have to pay the players each a few hundred thousand dollars.

People are representing it like the Jazz will have to divide $17 million among the Jazz players. This is not true.

Exactly.
 
Any way you look at it, this was a mistake by Dennis Lindsey.

No. There are many angles to consider here, and this is the conclusion some people come to when they don't appreciate that. One of DL's biggest priorities was trying to extend George Hill's contract. He just spent a 1st round pick on this guy, which you don't really want to do if you're going to lose him after one year. So If DL had burned that cap space on yet another mid level asset, he loses the ability to extend Hill. Obviously that didn't work out, but it would have been dumb not to leave that option open.

There are also other reasons for maintaining some cap space. It gives teams more flexibility to execute a trade. Otherwise, it can be difficult to meet salary matching requirements, or you might have to give up an asset to get a 3rd team involved that DOES have cap space. It also gives you the possibility of gaining an asset by being that 3rd team, helping someone else make a trade. Or you could gain an asset by taking someone else's bad contract. This is how the Nets were able to acquire Russell.

Anyway, this is a pretty common opinion around here, but wasting cap space on mid level assets can very well take you out of a bigger opportunity that comes later. No doubt if this cap space goes unused, the Captain Hindsights of the board will swoop in to trash DL, but that won't change the fact that there are some very good reasons for maintaining some cap space as opposed to filling it for the sake of filling it.
 
No. There are many angles to consider here, and this is the conclusion some people come to when they don't appreciate that. One of DL's biggest priorities was trying to extend George Hill's contract. He just spent a 1st round pick on this guy, which you don't really want to do if you're going to lose him after one year. So If DL had burned that cap space on yet another mid level asset, he loses the ability to extend Hill. Obviously that didn't work out, but it would have been dumb not to leave that option open.

There are also other reasons for maintaining some cap space. It gives teams more flexibility to execute a trade. Otherwise, it can be difficult to meet salary matching requirements, or you might have to give up an asset to get a 3rd team involved that DOES have cap space. It also gives you the possibility of gaining an asset by being that 3rd team, helping someone else make a trade. Or you could gain an asset by taking someone else's bad contract. This is how the Nets were able to acquire Russell.

Anyway, this is a pretty common opinion around here, but wasting cap space on mid level assets can very well take you out of a bigger opportunity that comes later. No doubt if this cap space goes unused, the Captain Hindsights of the board will swoop in to trash DL, but that won't change the fact that there are some very good reasons for maintaining some cap space as opposed to filling it for the sake of filling it.

Fair enough.

Obviously DL got a great value with the team he put together. I shouldn't complain. The Jazz won 51 games with a almost third of their team on the injured least.

I guess he's got to be careful this summer. If memory serves me correctly, the Blazers were the lowest payroll in 2015-2016. Now they are one of the highest for the next few years and they aren't able to compete.
 
Fair enough.

Obviously DL got a great value with the team he put together. I shouldn't complain. The Jazz won 51 games with a almost third of their team on the injured least.

I guess he's got to be careful this summer. If memory serves me correctly, the Blazers were the lowest payroll in 2015-2016. Now they are one of the highest for the next few years and they aren't able to compete.

That's what happens when you sign Allen Crabbe and Evan Turner to huge contracts.


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Doubt it. It's only a few hundred thousand per player.

I don't think we know how it is distributed. It doesn't make sense to me to have it all be an even cut across the field, although that would be a sweet bonus to the lower paid players and my preference. I like the new 2-way contracts and have long thought the Jazz should gain player respect by cycling through D-League players on 10-day contracts as the 15th man on the bench in a move nothing more than to increase there destitute wages.

Anyway, if it is paid out as a percentage of current wages then Hayward stands to gain a whole lot more.
 
I don't think we know how it is distributed. It doesn't make sense to me to have it all be an even cut across the field, although that would be a sweet bonus to the lower paid players and my preference.

I thought I had seen somewhere that it was uniformly distributed, because I remember being surprised by that. A proportional distribution would make more sense to me. But in looking for that info just now I came up empty. Or maybe there aren't any rules about how it needs to be distributed and is just left up to the team?

Later: Aha!! I found it. http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2016/09/05/Labor-and-Agents/NBA-salary-cap.aspx "The NBPA player representatives voted to have the players on the teams under the minimum receive the money in equal shares, based on time on the roster." So it's not proportional to salary but it is proportional to amount of time on the roster. Interesting.
 
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