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Beantown said:
He did. I think he does good work. He said no way in hell Ingles is leaving, he's also said no chance that Millsap will return.
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He has definitely been wrong on stuff before, but he does do great work and is pretty well informed.

I just find it hard to believe Hill would agree to come back. It would just be an awkward situation for him and Rubio. I think he goes to NYK or Denver. And if he breaks down an realizes he has to take a huge paycut to his expectations, he probably goes to San Antonio.
 
Active contracts are at 99 million. The rookies cap hold are 4 million and Haywards is 24 million I think. So that puts us around 127 million. We could drop all other cap holds, trade Burks and waive Diaw to get us down to around 110. Still over the cap limit to sign a FA but obviously under the luxury line.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/cap/
 
Tony Jones doesn't appear to say anything that isn't well-sourced. Will miss Hill. I guess I hope his toe injury is really that bad for the sake of the Jazz's management of everything.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Tony Jones doesn't appear to say anything that isn't well-sourced. Will miss Hill. I guess I hope his toe injury is really that bad for the sake of the Jazz's management of everything.
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He can still be used in a s&t. He still could be useful. Doubt it happens though.

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This may not be the best place for this thought but......

I hope that the BKN can make some moves go acquire some talent (at least whats left of it) and that the Jazz in what ever way possible help facilitate that, make that BOS pick as bad as possible. BKN has no motivation to tank since they don't own the pick and the East is looking pretty bad especially the bottom half so, why not, why not shoot to try and get the 8th seed in the East.

I would love it if some how the Jazz could keep HIll but realistically I know that's not likely so do some kind of JJ Reddick deal in a S&T with BKN would be the next best thing.
 
Sam Amick: While Danilo Gallinari has not made a decision, Clippers are trying to find a 3rd team w/ cap space for possible sign-and-trade with Denver – via Twitter sam_amick
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So since both teams are over the cap they cant directly sign and trade with each other? If Jazz want to sign and trade players they would have to find a team with cap space as well?
 
Probably old news, but did anyone listen to Locke's pod from June 30? Said Blake Griffin was interested in playing for Utah. Utah was gonna sign and trade possibly Exum/Hood/whatever for Griffin to help accelerate their rebuild. But then the Clips traded CP3 and essentially chose Griffin over CP3.
 
Beantown said:
Tony Jones says the G Hill train has left and under no circumstances is it returning.
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I bet if his market value plummets low enough the Jazz will sign him and then trade him at the deadline or something like that.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Active contracts are at 99 million. The rookies cap hold are 4 million and Haywards is 24 million I think. So that puts us around 127 million. We could drop all other cap holds, trade Burks and waive Diaw to get us down to around 110. Still over the cap limit to sign a FA but obviously under the luxury line.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/cap/
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We are just under 79m before cap holds. I don't see where they are getting 99 from. It seems like you either include all holds in which case it would be higher than 99 or don't in which case it would be lower than 99. Right?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah_jazz/
 
colton said:
I bet if his market value plummets low enough the Jazz will sign him and then trade him at the deadline or something like that.
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And who starts? Or do you start them both and bench both Ingles and Hood. Trading at the deadline likely means taking salary back. Do you see the Jazz signing Hill for $15M at a discount and paying an additional $22M in taxes. I think at that level it becomes at least a 1.5x incremental tax rate. And that's on top of the tax they may already have to pay without further changes to the roster. Resigning Hayward will put them around $6M over, even if they don't use the MLE and keep their roster at 13 players. TBH, I think they still need to sign a backup center.
 
♪alt13 said:
We are just under 79m before cap holds. I don't see where they are getting 99 from. It seems like you either include all holds in which case it would be higher than 99 or don't in which case it would be lower than 99. Right?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah_jazz/
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HoopsHype includes Diaw on their list, but doesn't count his salary in their $79M total. Also, I'm not sure at what point Ingles' deal hits the cap/cap holds. I would believe that once it's signed and sent to the league office, it's deducted from cap space - regardless of the moratorium. Otherwise, teams could just keep using their same cap space to sign as many players as they wanted between July 1st and July 6th.

If you add Diaw and Ingles' new deal to the total (plus some "likely incentives" HoopsHype missed), that's $99M.

Cap holds are for Hill, Mack, Withey and the two rookies. Hayward is no longer included as a cap hold since he declined his option (according to Spotrac)?

Spotrac is a much more accurate site, IMO, and is also quicker to update.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/cap/

For those too lazy to look, here's a summary.
1. Jazz have $99M in committed salaries. Doesn't include Hayward, does include Diaw. And includes Ingles at his new amount.
2. Jazz have $25 in cap holds. Includes their first round picks and Hill, Withey and Mack. Does NOT include Hayward according to Spotrac. I find that strange. Could it be that declining an option removes a player from a cap hold?
3. They could instantly clear $28M by renouncing Hill, Withey, Mack and declining option on Diaw. Also includes eliminating their exceptions.
4. That would bring them to about $95M
5. Signing Hayward then puts them around $125m, with the luxury tax at $119m. That's for a 13-man roster.
 
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♪alt13 said:
We are just under 79m before cap holds. I don't see where they are getting 99 from. It seems like you either include all holds in which case it would be higher than 99 or don't in which case it would be lower than 99. Right?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah_jazz/
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I am getting it from the link I put on there. I think sportrac is more accurate but I they could be wrong. That hoopshype link is missing at least Inlges and maybe more.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I am getting it from the link I put on there. I think sportrac is more accurate but I they could be wrong. That hoopshype link is missing at least Inlges and maybe more.
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Ingles hasn't signed yet. He should still be considered a 4m(iirc) cap hold.
 
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