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All-Time NBA Draft Round 1: Ellis269 vs. addictionary (re-vote)

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

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Elizah Huge

Elizah Huge

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The first matchup ended up in a tie.

Team Ellis269:

PG - Magic Johnson / Walt Frazier
SG - George Gervin / Earl Monroe
SF - Elgin Baylor / Sam Jones
PF - Elvin Hayes / Nate Thurmond
C - David Robinson / Artis Gilmore

Team addictionary:

PG - Russell Westbrook / John Wall
SG - James Harden / David Thompson
SF - Jamal Mashburn / Marques Johnson
PF - Anthony Davis / Tom Chambers
C - Shaquille O'Neal / Robert Parish

Ellis269's Case:

"There's no school like the old school. And I'm the ****ing headmaster."

Ervin "Magic" Johnson / Walt "Clyde" Frazier
George "The Iceman" Gervin / Earl "The Pearl" Monroe
Elgin "Mr. Inside" Baylor / Sam "The Shooter" Jones
Elvin "The Big E" Hayes / Nate "The Great" Thurmond
David "The Admiral" Robinson / Artis "The A-Train" Gilmore

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My team features ten hall of fame, all-time greats. 9 of the 10 players were on the NBA 50th anniversary team. . . and the one guy who wasn't (Artis Gilmore) would have been if he hadn't spent the first half of his illustrious career in the ABA.

My team features Magic Johnson - one of the greatest passing point guards/forwards of all time and teams him with David Robinson - one of the best two way bigs of all time. Walt Frazier is one of the top defensive guards of all time, while George Gervin, Elgin Baylor, Earl Monroe and Sam Jones were four of the greatest, most clutch scorers/shooters of all time. Elvin Hayes, Nate Thurmond and Artis Gilmore could all score, rebound, pass and defend.

Between the ten of them, they won 22 Championships, were voted to 58 All NBA teams, played in 88 All Star Games, won 5 NBA/ABA MVP Awards (Magic, Robinson and Gilmore), won 4 Finals MVP awards (Magic and Gilmore), had one Defensive MVP (Robinson) and were voted to 27 All Defensive teams. They also won 6 scoring titles (Iceman, Robinson and Hayes) and led the league four times in assists, twice in steals, twice in rebounds and once in rebounds.

Collectively, they scored 203,378 points, grabbed 93,125 rebounds, dished out 37,896 assists, snatched about 24,000* steals and blocked around 23,000* shots. . . and that's just the statistics that they kept. For half these guys, they didn't have steals, blocks or 3 pointers for big chunks of their careers (*estimated based on minimum averages x games played.)

None of my players averaged less than 20 points per game and Elgin Baylor had a SEVEN year span where he AVERAGED more than 30 points, 15 rebounds and 4 assists PER GAME!

For comparison sake - if you add up their best years, my starters averaged 153.8 points per game. Addy's starters for their best years averaged 142.5 points per game. That's +11.3 points per game in my favor. My starters averaged 68.8 rebounds per game. Addy's starters averaged 51.8 rebounds per game. +17 more rebounds per game for my guys. I will admit that Addy's team passes the ball better than mine does. My starters averaged 29.5 assists per game. Addy's starters averaged 33.2 assists per game. So, they scored less and rebounded a lot less. . . but passed the ball a little better to accomplish it.

addictionary's Case:

Ellis' team consists from a lot of my picks from the previous All-Time drafts. Some examples are: Baylor, Hayes, Gilmore and Thurmond. Good job on picking gems.

I this draft, I pretty much have met all my expectations mostly with picks and with a few trades.

This is the exact athletic, shooting, dominant and tough team I wanted to put together to matchup against teams that can give me disadvantage in certain spots. So I looked after being athletically dominant and flexible while being able to shoot.

Most of the guys are self proven, some might be a bit old to a few.

David Thompson is the guy why we have Michael Jordan today. He was the guy that influenced MJ's Air game and he was the poster on his wall while he was growing up.

Tom Chambers is the definition of White Men CAN Jump.

Marques Johnson was one of the tough opponents of Dr J who was an amazing athlete and scorer. This guy still dunks at the age of 60, remind you.

So what happens on court?

Shaq can't find a tougher opponent than the Admiral and Wilt alikes who were no where near giving up on his physical level of play, but at least I can count on his dominance under the rim on both ends of the floor without getting exploited.

Magic also is the 2nd and last matchup that concerns me with Russ-Harden backcourt. Defensively, it will be a problem.

Other than these, I expect to see AD23, Mashburn and Shaq absolutely destroy the opponent on the other end.

Russ-Harden duo showed an insane level of all around game than peaked in last season. So their gathering would be much more dangerous than the OKC years while we look at'em today. Russ is the most explosive PG of all time. Harden is like a piece of butter on the court in terms of scoring. I expect an easy one on offense.

Bench matchups are not too much of a concern to me, having a strong Parish under the rim accompanied by Tom Chambers who can dunk like crazy and also step away and shoot. Marques Johnson can be the perfect athletic SF for the 2nd unit to lead the scoring effort alongisde Wall's unquestionable defensive and offensive talents that orchestrates the 2nd unit. David Thompson can put on a show and make us fall in love with the game again. Considering putting him in with Russ-AD-Shaq-Wall/Chambers/Johnson for the eye candies for the fans during garbage time.
 
Why did we start another poll? You should have just bumped the thread and ask anyone who didnt vote to chime in by posting their vote.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Maybe more/less people vote. Original was 14-14 (28).

When I vs Thee we had 38 voters (unless 10 of them were Thee's alts... haha)
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Or people who voted a few days ago dont vote again and someone else wins. Should have just kept same poll, bumped it, and asked anyone who didnt vote to write down their vote.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Maybe more/less people vote. Original was 14-14 (28).

When I vs Thee we had 38 voters (unless 10 of them were Thee's alts... haha)
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So the winner is who gets the favorable random sample from the previous vote. Pure nonsense.
 
We could just count only the votes from people who didn't vote on the previous thread.

Ties suck and I just wanted it to be the fairest way possible. People would have complained if I would have just bumped the old thread and asked for a few people to chime in.

I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.
 
White Chocolate said:
We could just count only the votes from people who didn't vote on the previous thread.

Ties suck and I just wanted it to be the fairest way possible. People would have complained if I would have just bumped the old thread and asked for a few people to chime in.

I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.
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Yah I like this idea.
 
shoulda run a sudden death overtime period. Then Ellis and addy would scramble to get the winning vote. Not fair, but entertaining.
 
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Elgin Baylor falling to 78 is ridiculous. Hot Rod Hundley going to raise out of his grave and slap the hell outta people.

He also has one of the greatest leaders of all time in Magic Johnson quarterbacking his team and a dominant center in the Admiral.

The Anthony Davis-Shaq combo is freaky. Like how do you deal with that?

I did the monster mash as anyone else, but feels like Mashburn is way out of place here starting on a all time team.

Ellis has a really strong defensive minded bench.
 
Addy should win this. He was up 8-7 and I jumped on to vote when we stopped for lunch. I was going to suggest he do the same, but my phone died before I could. First round of voting was a dead lock, but if he'd voted for himself this time around he would have won fair and square. Time to put him through and move on.
 
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I was asked to tie-break this thing.

It would be so easy for me to pick Magic and Duncan. So easy.

But Shaq is unstopable. Westbrook produces no matter what. Harden scores. Then you throw Anthony Davis in there?

Prior to the 80s I don't know jack. I feel like Ellis has the edge on players I don't really know...but I don't really know. And I'm not sure it's enough to get past 4 players I do know who are a ridiculous combination. But Ellis's team is super high BBIQ. That could tip it.

I can see why this is a tie.

I kind of hate to do it because I'm just not sure Magic and Duncan couldn't outsmart the other team on their own, the Shaq, Westbrook, Harden, AD combo is just too good.

My vote is for Addictionary.
 
Bulletproof said:
I was asked to tie-break this thing.

It would be so easy for me to pick Magic and Duncan. So easy.

But Shaq is unstopable. Westbrook produces no matter what. Harden scores. Then you throw Anthony Davis in there?

Prior to the 80s I don't know jack. I feel like Ellis has the edge on players I don't really know...but I don't really know. And I'm not sure it's enough to get past 4 players I do know who are a ridiculous combination. But Ellis's team is super high BBIQ. That could tip it.

I can see why this is a tie.

I kind of hate to do it because I'm just not sure Magic and Duncan couldn't outsmart the other team on their own, the Shaq, Westbrook, Harden, AD combo is just too good.

My vote is for Addictionary.
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Thanks for your vote and post, but if you don't know who Eliis' players are and you confuse David Robinson with Tim Duncan, I am going to have to ask for another tie breaker on this thing from the association. Because it wouldn't be fair this way and you would be biased.
 
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