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Who will lead in PPG this season?

Who's it going to be?

  • Hood

    Votes: 33 46.5%

  • Burks

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Favors

    Votes: 8 11.3%

  • Johnson

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Mitchell

    Votes: 5 7.0%

  • Gobert

    Votes: 22 31.0%
  • Total voters
    71
You're not going anywhere if Hayward is your no.1 guy. He's a good player but he's not a superstar by any means. I'm glad we didn't get in a toxic contract with Haywoodie ******.
 
franklin said:
If Hood is the leading scorer then this team won't average 70 ppg. I think they'll be lucky to not set a franchise low in ppg. Next season is going to suck ***.
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Bold. Someone who cares more than me save this one for a Cold Takes Exposed later.
 
fishonjazz said:
Pretty funny how they seemed to win more games when hayward was hurt or sick than when he was on the court doe.
Including the playoff game when he was sick.
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Que? We won 1 playoff game without him an 3 with him.

We won way more games w/ him than w/o him.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Que? We won 1 playoff game without him an 3 with him.

We won way more games w/ him than w/o him.
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I meant to say win percentage. My bad.

Of course we won way more games with him than without him. We also lost way more games with him than without. Lol at me.
 
fishonjazz said:
I meant to say win percentage. My bad.

Of course we won way more games with him than without him. We also lost way more games with him than without. Lol at me.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Jazz record without Hayward for the past 5 years is 18-14. For the past 2 years, it's 7-4.
 
Ron Mexico said:
In April when he was playing his best ball of the season he was averaging 17.3 ppg on 71.5% shooting. Post all-star this year he averaged 16.7 ppg on 70%. I think it is conceivable he could get to 18 on good averages.
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To me, the averages you're talking about seem unsustainable during a whole season, especially without Hayward, who drew much attention from the defenses. Besides, let's not forget that Gobert is not the most durable player ever - far from it. I don't think management would like to see him banging in the paint enough to average about 16-18 ppg while ALSO being the defensive anchor of the team.

I agree that everybody should expect Gobert to have a higher usage rate, but not a much higher one. On the other hand, Gobert offensive efficiency, which was off the charts, should be expected to come down a bit, even if he improves his limited skill set, due to Hayward's absense and the increased attention that he should receive from the opposition.

I'm predicting 15-16 ppg for Gobert, in slightly less minutes per game, 32.0, with a FG% around 60%.
 
Siro said:
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Jazz record without Hayward for the past 5 years is 18-14. For the past 2 years, it's 7-4.
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Wow. It's even better than I remembered. **** haywood.

That's pretty crazy considering some of those years were tank type years when the roster was crap yet a crap roster minus haywood still did pretty good (and did better than with haywood which was my point)

Thanks for posting that
 
fishonjazz said:
Wow. It's even better than I remembered. **** haywood.

That's pretty crazy considering some of those years were tank type years when the roster was crap yet a crap roster minus haywood still did pretty good (and did better than with haywood which was my point)

Thanks for posting that
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Wow, that's not a very good record and an incredibly small sample size.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Wow, that's not a very good record and an incredibly small sample size.
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It's a winning record during years when our record was horrible

18-14 is a win % that could get you into the playoffs. And thats with some horrible rosters and no amazing hayward out there either.
Did you forget that we missed the playoffs for many years before last year.

I'm shocked that a team that couldn't make the playoffs would have a winning record without their "best" player.

As for sample size. It's not huge but 32 games isn't tiny either.

It what is. We had a better winning % when hayward didn't play than when he did, no matter what excuses you want make and how you want to spin it. Which was my original point.
 
ghsartin said:
To me, the averages you're talking about seem unsustainable during a whole season, especially without Hayward, who drew much attention from the defenses. Besides, let's not forget that Gobert is not the most durable player ever - far from it. I don't think management would like to see him banging in the paint enough to average about 16-18 ppg while ALSO being the defensive anchor of the team.

I agree that everybody should expect Gobert to have a higher usage rate, but not a much higher one. On the other hand, Gobert offensive efficiency, which was off the charts, should be expected to come down a bit, even if he improves his limited skill set, due to Hayward's absense and the increased attention that he should receive from the opposition.

I'm predicting 15-16 ppg for Gobert, in slightly less minutes per game, 32.0, with a FG% around 60%.
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I think he will be around 16 ppg as well. But it's not a stretch to be higher. This will be the first time in his career playing with a PG who can pass to him properly. Rubio is much better at getting the ball to bigs than Hill. That is worth a couple points jump alone.
 
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