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DutchJazzer said:
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Only crazy anarchists and libertarians, like you, claim to want that. And even then, I highly doubt that's what you truly want.

Trump supporters are the most likely demographic to claim "a return to constitutional principles and demand smaller government." Yet, one of their strongest sticking points has been their insistence that social security and Medicare be strengthened, not slashed. So in reality, they don't want "smaller government" or "original constitutional principles."

Trump even campaigned that entitlements wouldn't be touched.

The evidence is pretty clear, trump supporters don't truly support "a return of small government" in the sense of actually cutting their primary entitlement programs. They do however, support cuts to education, foreign aid, and food stamps. But most republicans campaigned on that. And that's a drop in the bucket in our federal budget. Foreign aid alone contributes less than 1 percent of spending.

So what is the difference between trump and the other 200 GOP candidates he campaigned against? I'll give you a hint, it starts with xeno and ends in phobia.
 
Small government vs large government is an oversimplification. What we need is right-sized government. It needs to take care of our basic needs, in which I include healthcare, for all citizens, without overreach on pet projects that cause an undo tax burden on either business or individuals of all income levels. In the best of cases it is a very difficult balance to achieve, but unfortunately in our polarized political arena we just cannot get the compromise solutions that would really fix things, we get extremists pushing the opposite ends of the spectrum and special interests on both sides that just cause a huge suck on the whole system.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Small government vs large government is an oversimplification. What we need is right-sized government. It needs to take care of our basic needs, in which I include healthcare, for all citizens, without overreach on pet projects that cause an undo tax burden on either business or individuals of all income levels. In the best of cases it is a very difficult balance to achieve, but unfortunately in our polarized political arena we just cannot get the compromise solutions that would really fix things, we get extremists pushing the opposite ends of the spectrum and special interests on both sides that just cause a huge suck on the whole system.
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It's not just opposite ends of the spectrum that cannot agree on the definition of "right size government" but the party in power. Most establishment republicans don't want significant changes (mccain, McConnell). Then there's a handful of Koch brother funded think tanks and lobbyists who want an Ayn Rand libertarian fantasy government (Lee, Cruz, Ryan). And another strong and wealthy faction powered by am radio, tv evangelists, and religious schools that want theocratic government (Santorum, Pence, and dozens from Oklahoma and Texas).

Most of the time these 3 factions work together to elect each other. But as we've seen so far, they almost never can come to a consensus in governing. Just look at how the GOP has accomplished zero in legislation in 9 months despite controlling all 3 branches of government. The democrats literally have had zero power or influence and the GOP hasn't been able to pass anything due to their own rifts.

Btw, most GOP voters might claim to want change and smaller government but actually don't want it. Remember, "keep your damn government hands off my Medicare."
 
Btw, next freak show is gonna be fun to watch. In the next few weeks the GOP is gonna try and push through tax reform.

The house will probably pass gigantic cuts for corporations and rich people. The cbo will score it. People will see that this is yet another attempt to give handouts to rich people and weaken the long term health of their safety nets. And it'll stall in the senate. The senate will debate and debate it but won't be able to pass the house's vigorous cuts. And it'll die a long drawn out death around Halloween or thanksgiving. Don't will insult senators and continue to attack Flake and McConnell but ultimately won't accomplish anything.

I can't wait until either Mueller or the 2018 midterms end Donald's presidency. He's just so toxic. Completely clueless in building bridges and passing legislation.
 
DutchJazzer said:
MAH FREE STUFF STOLEN FROM OTHERS!
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Liberty is a lot more than not paying too much in taxes. I'd still actively call myself a libertarian if it wasn't infested with people who just don't want to pay taxes.
 
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