Dante Exum: shoulder injury

[Getting Traded]

All I know is that when you have a dream and your path is blocked, it is not easy and can be painful, and some people never overcome the obstacles. As to say his injury is not career-ending, I think you fail to realize that it is troubling. It is the second major injury in Dante's short career. It could be a sign that he will not endure in the NBA. Injuries take their toll. Look at AK47. What many don't realize is the series of many small injuries he had that gradually affected him and short-changed his career. By the time of his retirement, he was only the shell of his former athletic self. It's easy to criticize someone, but if you have not had similar experiences, it's not fair to judge.

Wtf, Cappy Smurf, you are such a Dante homer that even when I am supporting him, you dislike it because you don't want to hear the realities of his situation.

 

[Shad]

Let me get this straight. I'm not talking about personality or anything like that. Let's just leave his name out and consider this.

People want to give someone (COULD BE ANYONE for this example):

1. Has career averages of 20 mins, 5 pts, 2 assists, shoots 38% from the 2 and 30% form the 3.
2. Has had multiple injuries (basically made of glass).
3. Doesn't look like a leader at all.
4. Has almost as many turnovers per assists.
5. Averages 1 rebound in 20 minutes of play.
6. Looks like a lost puppy the majority of the time playing.

and people want to give this guy 10 million a year? Doesn't matter where someone was drafted. Someone please make sense to me why other than "He's only 22 LOL." or "He has potential."

Most people would give someone the vet minimum with those points.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I wouldn't be opposed to giving Dante an extension but it was pups have to be at a steep discount... pre-injury his market may have been 4/40, so maybe I'd go 4/28 with the last year a team option.

None of it has to do with being loyal or him being a good kid. Just I think it could be a bargain when he gets back.

This injury is not career ending and nowhere near as catastrophic as the knee injury.

They might get him that cheaply, but if they do, I think it will be because they let him go to FA and then matched someone else's offer sheet. If they decide to try and avoid that situation, I think he'll get a little more. I said 8-10 million, so that's 32-40 million, which isn't that far off.

 

[MDAV28]

Let me get this straight. I'm not talking about personality or anything like that. Let's just leave his name out and consider this.

People want to give someone (COULD BE ANYONE for this example):

1. Has career averages of 20 mins, 5 pts, 2 assists, shoots 38% from the 2 and 30% form the 3.
2. Has had multiple injuries (basically made of glass).
3. Doesn't look like a leader at all.
4. Has almost as many turnovers per assists.
5. Averages 1 rebound in 20 minutes of play.
6. Looks like a lost puppy the majority of the time playing.

and people want to give this guy 10 million a year? Doesn't matter where someone was drafted. Someone please make sense to me why other than "He's only 22 LOL." or "He has potential."

Most people would give someone the vet minimum with those points.

Why do you pay 6-8 million a year to 19 year olds that have never played a minute of professional basketball?

Contracts are gambles and if you pay attention rarely represent present value, especially in players so young. Throwing away the fact that he is young and has potential is being ignorant.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why do you pay 6-8 million a year to 19 year olds that have never played a minute of professional basketball?

Contracts are gambles and if you pay attention rarely represent present value, especially in players so young. Throwing away the fact that he is young and has potential is being ignorant.

Because you have to if they are a high pick.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Wtf, Cappy Smurf, you are such a Dante homer that even when I am supporting him, you dislike it because you don't want to hear the realities of his situation.

I disagree with the idea you label somebody injury prone over a freak accident. Dante could have been in a car accident and some fans would be calling him injury prone. Good for you for supporting him, but I dislike your post. Don't worry though, I dislike other people's posts, and they all seem to get over it, so I think you'll be ok. If not, I'm afraid you might be prone to oversensitivity, which means you might not last as a Jazzfanz poster.

 

[MDAV28]

Because you have to if they are a high pick.

I mean same logic basically. If the open market dictates your player is worth more than his current value than that is what you pay.

To make this clear I am by no means saying we should extend Exum at that number. The risk of a large contract going Exum's way is so small that the Jazz can sit on their hands and see what happens. I'm saying I could see that being an offer sheet Exum does obtain.

 

[nateboz]

From what I've heard x is going to need the 6 month surgery period. He can postpone it but it'll have to be done eventually.

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[fishonjazz]

Why do you pay 6-8 million a year to 19 year olds that have never played a minute of professional basketball?

Because you have to. I think draft picks don't really negotiate contracts. It's already determined based on where you are picked or something iirc.

The question you should be asking is, Do teams pay 22 year olds who have been in the league for 4 years that have produced similarly to Dante and have had multiple major injuries, big time money?

That's the question that is relevant here I think.

I don't know the answer fwiw.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean same logic basically. If the open market dictates your player is worth more than his current value than that is what you pay.

To make this clear I am by no means saying we should extend Exum at that number. The risk of a large contract going Exum's way is so small that the Jazz can sit on their hands and see what happens. I'm saying I could see that being an offer sheet Exum does obtain.

No one is going to give him that offer sheet because they know the Jazz will just match it.

1. It hurts the Jazz more for him to sit in RFA for as long as possible given his cap hold
2. Teams dont want to overpay for a guy like Exum just so the Jazz wont match

 

[Getting Traded]

I disagree with the idea you label somebody injury prone over a freak accident. Dante could have been in a car accident and some fans would be calling him injury prone. Good for you for supporting him, but I dislike your post. Don't worry though, I dislike other people's posts, and they all seem to get over it, so I think you'll be ok. If not, I'm afraid you might be prone to oversensitivity, which means you might not last as a Jazzfanz poster.

Listen, weenie, I've been on here for 14 years, the year Jason started the site. Sure, it's a freak accident but he's had other injuries. I think he should not have come to the NBA when he did. He wasn't ready; his body wasn't mature. And as I pointed out, one injury often leads to another. I'm not the only one calling Dante injury prone. Just go out on the Internet and see what people are saying, doofus.

 

[JimLes]

The question you should be asking is, Do teams pay 22 year olds who have been in the league for 4 years that have produced similarly to Dante and have had multiple major injuries, big time money?

I'm not sure generalizing is a good way to go about this. Never mind other players and never mind other teams. The question ought to be simply should the Jazz pay Dante Exum big time money? Does the team believe he can develop into someone giving us quality minutes?