Funny... if you're NOT deporting jews, you're not going to mention deporting jews either.
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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
Funny... if you're NOT deporting jews, you're not going to mention deporting jews either.
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Red
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Is he coming apart at the seams, or what? Talk about unfit...
If I just went by his speeches to his audiences at rallies, I would very much feel that something was wrong mentally with the President. And at the moment, he's not taking a lot of things well. Publicly, as always. Expresses a desire to increase America's nuclear arsenal 10 fold. His generals, and Mattis and Kelly, said to be stunned, and concerned. Trump proclaiming "fake news". Again fake news, as always when the story does not glorify him.
It is a narrative, this story of crisis in Trump's presidency. Everybody has a narrative, everybody has a story to tell. But is it a true narrative? Is he losing it? Or is the whole construct that he is losing it a liberal based fiction, at its heart a type of attempted coup, to strip him of the office? If you repeat a lie often enough. History will render a judgement here, simply because there has never been a Presidency like this one, and the competing narratives are leading to some sort of reckoning. For somebody. For Trump? Or for the media, the press? An adversarial press has long been regarded as a necessity of sorts, the press as watchdog. A 100% compliant press grants free reign. Unless one believes the anti-Trump narrative is based on all lies, then the attack on the press is chilling. Unless one favors authoritarianism, unless one favors free reign in one's ruler.
Trump creates the reality for his supporters to believe. Everything is great. The mainstream media always lies about Trump. Democrats can't get over losing. The "Russian thing" is a hoax. Daily he vilifies individuals relentlessly, alternating with proclamations that the President we're seeing is greatness personified. The administration is "great", everything is great to an historic degree. Repeat that lie often enough. Create a world for followers to believe in. If the media narrative is that the emperor has no clothes, Trump's narrative is that he's dressed for greatness, and dressed to splendor.
Then you listen to the man at his rallies. You see the appeal to militant nationalism. And maybe you've seen this before, in other times and places. Maybe you see that this is happening because the culture Trump emerged from made this possible. As it did in other times and other places. And you realize the President's narrative is not a narrative one would really expect from the man who speaks to the audience at his rallies. That man would more likely generate the narrative that is reflected in this piece:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers
"At first it sounded like hyperbole, the escalation of a Twitter war. But now it’s clear that Bob Corker’s remarkable New York Times interview—in which the Republican senator described the White House as “adult day care” and warned Trump could start World War III—was an inflection point in the Trump presidency. It brought into the open what several people close to the president have recently told me in private: that Trump is “unstable,” “losing a step,” and “unraveling.”
The conversation among some of the president’s longtime confidantes, along with the character of some of the leaks emerging from the White House has shifted. There’s a new level of concern. NBC News published a report that Trump shocked his national security team when he called for a nearly tenfold increase in the country’s nuclear arsenal during a briefing this summer. One Trump adviser confirmed to me it was after this meeting disbanded that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called Trump a “moron.”
In recent days, I spoke with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers, and they all describe a White House in crisis as advisers struggle to contain a president who seems to be increasingly unfocused and consumed by dark moods. Trump’s ire is being fueled by his stalled legislative agenda and, to a surprising degree, by his decision last month to back the losing candidate Luther Strange in the Alabama Republican primary. “Alabama was a huge blow to his psyche,” a person close to Trump said. “He saw the cult of personality was broken.”"
If I just went by his speeches to his audiences at rallies, I would very much feel that something was wrong mentally with the President. And at the moment, he's not taking a lot of things well. Publicly, as always. Expresses a desire to increase America's nuclear arsenal 10 fold. His generals, and Mattis and Kelly, said to be stunned, and concerned. Trump proclaiming "fake news". Again fake news, as always when the story does not glorify him.
It is a narrative, this story of crisis in Trump's presidency. Everybody has a narrative, everybody has a story to tell. But is it a true narrative? Is he losing it? Or is the whole construct that he is losing it a liberal based fiction, at its heart a type of attempted coup, to strip him of the office? If you repeat a lie often enough. History will render a judgement here, simply because there has never been a Presidency like this one, and the competing narratives are leading to some sort of reckoning. For somebody. For Trump? Or for the media, the press? An adversarial press has long been regarded as a necessity of sorts, the press as watchdog. A 100% compliant press grants free reign. Unless one believes the anti-Trump narrative is based on all lies, then the attack on the press is chilling. Unless one favors authoritarianism, unless one favors free reign in one's ruler.
Trump creates the reality for his supporters to believe. Everything is great. The mainstream media always lies about Trump. Democrats can't get over losing. The "Russian thing" is a hoax. Daily he vilifies individuals relentlessly, alternating with proclamations that the President we're seeing is greatness personified. The administration is "great", everything is great to an historic degree. Repeat that lie often enough. Create a world for followers to believe in. If the media narrative is that the emperor has no clothes, Trump's narrative is that he's dressed for greatness, and dressed to splendor.
Then you listen to the man at his rallies. You see the appeal to militant nationalism. And maybe you've seen this before, in other times and places. Maybe you see that this is happening because the culture Trump emerged from made this possible. As it did in other times and other places. And you realize the President's narrative is not a narrative one would really expect from the man who speaks to the audience at his rallies. That man would more likely generate the narrative that is reflected in this piece:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers
"At first it sounded like hyperbole, the escalation of a Twitter war. But now it’s clear that Bob Corker’s remarkable New York Times interview—in which the Republican senator described the White House as “adult day care” and warned Trump could start World War III—was an inflection point in the Trump presidency. It brought into the open what several people close to the president have recently told me in private: that Trump is “unstable,” “losing a step,” and “unraveling.”
The conversation among some of the president’s longtime confidantes, along with the character of some of the leaks emerging from the White House has shifted. There’s a new level of concern. NBC News published a report that Trump shocked his national security team when he called for a nearly tenfold increase in the country’s nuclear arsenal during a briefing this summer. One Trump adviser confirmed to me it was after this meeting disbanded that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called Trump a “moron.”
In recent days, I spoke with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers, and they all describe a White House in crisis as advisers struggle to contain a president who seems to be increasingly unfocused and consumed by dark moods. Trump’s ire is being fueled by his stalled legislative agenda and, to a surprising degree, by his decision last month to back the losing candidate Luther Strange in the Alabama Republican primary. “Alabama was a huge blow to his psyche,” a person close to Trump said. “He saw the cult of personality was broken.”"
Red
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Sworn to uphold the Consitution, Trump is now advocating selective canceling of freedom of the press:
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/10/censoring_a_free_press_would_b.html
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech." -- Benjamin Franklin
"Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy, it is democracy." -- Walter Cronkite
"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." -- President Thomas Jefferson
"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -- President John Kennedy
An attempt to suppress, censor or intimidate the press just because you don't like what they are reporting is moronic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...es-push-back-trump-s-licensing-threat-n809941
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/10/censoring_a_free_press_would_b.html
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech." -- Benjamin Franklin
"Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy, it is democracy." -- Walter Cronkite
"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." -- President Thomas Jefferson
"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -- President John Kennedy
An attempt to suppress, censor or intimidate the press just because you don't like what they are reporting is moronic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...es-push-back-trump-s-licensing-threat-n809941
Red
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An adversarial press has existed since the earliest days of this Republic. Find me one President who has not faced criticism by an adversarial press. Trump wants censorship. And that is a step beyond the pale methinks...
DutchJazzer
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LOL!!!
the commies in this thread are FUNNY!
the commies in this thread are FUNNY!
Being detached from reality has the effect of making sane look insane, silly, or downright funny.
Red
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This piece does a good job explaining how Facebook was successfully weaponized in election 2016. A narrative where Russian "active measures" are only one actor. This is much more about eroding "the informational underpinnings of democracy". At the very least, we probably are well served knowing that this is happening. I imagine we owe ourselves that much.
What Facebook Did to American Democracy.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/10/what-facebook-did/542502/
In the media world, as in so many other realms, there is a sharp discontinuity in the timeline: before the 2016 election, and after.
Things we thought we understood—narratives, data, software, news events—have had to be reinterpreted in light of Donald Trump’s surprising win as well as the continuing questions about the role that misinformation and disinformation played in his election.
Tech journalists covering Facebook had a duty to cover what was happening before, during, and after the election. Reporters tried to see past their often liberal political orientations and the unprecedented actions of Donald Trump to see how 2016 was playing out on the internet. Every component of the chaotic digital campaign has been reported on, here at The Atlantic, and elsewhere: Facebook’s enormous distribution power for political information, rapacious partisanship reinforced by distinct media information spheres, the increasing scourge of “viral” hoaxes and other kinds of misinformation that could propagate through those networks, and the Russian information ops agency.
But no one delivered the synthesis that could have tied together all these disparate threads. It’s not that this hypothetical perfect story would have changed the outcome of the election. The real problem—for all political stripes—is understanding the set of conditions that led to Trump’s victory. The informational underpinnings of democracy have eroded, and no one has explained precisely how.
What Facebook Did to American Democracy.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/10/what-facebook-did/542502/
In the media world, as in so many other realms, there is a sharp discontinuity in the timeline: before the 2016 election, and after.
Things we thought we understood—narratives, data, software, news events—have had to be reinterpreted in light of Donald Trump’s surprising win as well as the continuing questions about the role that misinformation and disinformation played in his election.
Tech journalists covering Facebook had a duty to cover what was happening before, during, and after the election. Reporters tried to see past their often liberal political orientations and the unprecedented actions of Donald Trump to see how 2016 was playing out on the internet. Every component of the chaotic digital campaign has been reported on, here at The Atlantic, and elsewhere: Facebook’s enormous distribution power for political information, rapacious partisanship reinforced by distinct media information spheres, the increasing scourge of “viral” hoaxes and other kinds of misinformation that could propagate through those networks, and the Russian information ops agency.
But no one delivered the synthesis that could have tied together all these disparate threads. It’s not that this hypothetical perfect story would have changed the outcome of the election. The real problem—for all political stripes—is understanding the set of conditions that led to Trump’s victory. The informational underpinnings of democracy have eroded, and no one has explained precisely how.
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It's baffling to me how many on the right live in a complete alt reality. I can only theorize that it's due to listening/watching Fox News and am radio. They've just so brainwashed.
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I just figured I posted in wrong thread lol.