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McNuggets at the Jazz - Wednesday, October 18th - 7 PM

NUMBERICA said:
That team didn't scrap. They weren't fun to watch. It was one bad era of basketball sitting on top of what looked like could be a better one. There was nothing exhilarating about how they played or where anything was going. There wasn't anything worth saving (except Millsap).

This team scraps. They're fun to watch. They seem to like each other and play for each other. They seem like they want to be here. And this is it. They need to blow it up or they need to double down, there's no lame-duckedness to it.
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I'll give you that angle all day every day.

They could have built a scrappy team then too, but fans and the F.O. all wanted playoffs just like they want them now. Boozer jumped ship, Memo was a dead man walking, and D-Will had one foot out the door. What did fans beg for? Al Jefferson, Devin Harris + Earl Watson followed by Mo Williams, and a playoff berth. Then they begged for a tank. Then the tank sucked *** and this team is going to find itself in the ****ter, with an unhappy Rudy Gobert contract situation.
 
franklin said:
I'll give you that angle all day every day.

They could have built a scrappy team then too, but fans and the F.O. all wanted playoffs just like they want them now. Boozer jumped ship, Memo was a dead man walking, and D-Will had one foot out the door. What did fans beg for? Al Jefferson, Devin Harris + Earl Watson followed by Mo Williams, and a playoff berth. Then they begged for a tank. Then the tank sucked *** and this team is going to find itself in the ****ter, with an unhappy Rudy Gobert contract situation.
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Or maybe if they ace every move they can end up with some players to really build around. Hell, The Jazz's brightest hopes are a mid and late first rounder that they traded up for while Favors' time has been kind of disappointing, Kanter was a waste, Burke a failure, and Exum has become an afterthought. The Jazz didn't get any opportunities that panned out in the upper-echelons of the draft. Millsap and Carroll could've stayed. Maybe the lesson with this organization is that they should just never quit and outwork everyone else in scouting, development, and being on the phones. I really don't see any other way out unless the Jazz trade Gobert which frankly is a totally unconscionable and unpalatable scenario.

This is it. For better or for worse.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Or maybe if they ace every move they can end up with some players to really build around. Hell, The Jazz's brightest hopes are a mid and late first rounder that they traded up for while Favors' time has been kind of disappointing, Kanter was a waste, Burke a failure, and Exum has become an afterthought. The Jazz didn't get any opportunities that panned out in the upper-echelons of the draft. Millsap and Carroll could've stayed. Maybe the lesson with this organization is that they should just never quit and outwork everyone else in scouting, development, and being on the phones. I really don't see any other way out unless the Jazz trade Gobert which frankly is a totally unconscionable and unpalatable scenario.

This is it. For better or for worse.
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Why do you think I have been arguing for years that teams should trade those wasteful high lotto picks for better assets or multiple mid-draft range gambles instead of just one? The Jazz need to think outside the box instead of being the follower team building strategists they have been for the last 20 years. They need to invent a new way of improving.
 
franklin said:
Why do you think I have been arguing for years that teams should trade those wasteful high lotto picks for better assets or multiple mid-draft range gambles instead of just one? The Jazz need to think outside the box instead of being the follower team building strategists they have been for the last 20 years. They need to invent a new way of improving.
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I have been asking for this for years as well. They are trying to pattern themselves after the Spurs when that is such a unique situation that it is doubtful it can work anywhere else. I want to see more of what Ainge has done at this point, with purposeful moves that bring serious upgrades, or, as franklin puts it, outside the box thinking. Do something different. But if we do not make some kind of push we will have a disgruntled superstar in Rudy and we will either cost him his chance at a title or he will bolt. Neither situation is good for us.
 
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