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Ferguson_Mellochill

Ferguson_Mellochill

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Not to gripe or anything, but a small market team like the Jazz has to maximize its ability to acquire talent through the draft and then develop that talent. The elephant in the living room, and likely one of the reasons that Hayward chose to leave the Jazz, is that the Jazz haven't drafted very well during the past 7 years. You all know this already, but here's the recap:

2011: Enes Kanter (gone) and Alec Burks (doghouse)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked
2013: Trey Burke (out of the league), Rudy Gobert (stud)
2014: Dante Exum (stifled by injuries), Rodney Hood (starter)
2015: Trey Lyles (gone)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill
2017: Donovan Mitchell (good prospect)


So add it all up, and the Jazz have one stud (Gobert), one starter (Hood), and one solid prospect (Mitchell) to show for 9 first-round draft picks. Burks is a rotation player too, and hopefully he has a good year, but the last couple of games haven't looked good.

I get that the Kanter trade netted us the pick that was traded for Rubio, and that Trey Lyles enabled us to trade up to draft Mitchell. What this means, however, is that the Jazz are low on talent, and probably need to do a roster reset.

Phoenix's young talent -- Booker, Jackson, Chriss, Bender, even Len -- all looked decent last night for the most part, and the Jazz couldn't get much done against them.
 
Catchall said:
Not to gripe or anything, but a small market team like the Jazz has to maximize its ability to acquire talent through the draft and then develop that talent. The elephant in the living room, and likely one of the reasons that Hayward chose to leave the Jazz, is that the Jazz haven't drafted very well during the past 7 years. You all know this already, but here's the recap:

2011: Enes Kanter (gone) and Alec Burks (doghouse)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked
2013: Trey Burke (out of the league), Rudy Gobert (stud)
2014: Dante Exum (stifled by injuries), Rodney Hood (starter)
2015: Trey Lyles (gone)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill
2017: Donovan Mitchell (good prospect)


So add it all up, and the Jazz have one stud (Gobert), one starter (Hood), and one solid prospect (Mitchell) to show for 9 first-round draft picks. Burks is a rotation player too, and hopefully he has a good year, but the last couple of games haven't looked good.

What this means is that the Jazz are low on talent, and probably need to do a roster reset.

Phoenix's young talent -- Booker, Jackson, Chriss, Bender, even Len -- all looked decent last night for the most part, and the Jazz couldn't get much done against them.
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2011: Enes Kanter (talented, can score but did not fit the defensive identity we established later. Got Rubio with the pick for Kanter) and Alec Burks (All the potential just unlucky to date)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked
2013: Trey Burke (Huge mistake, this one really), Rudy Gobert (stud)
2014: Dante Exum (Was always 4-5yrs away and has had terrible luck with injuries), Rodney Hood (starter)
2015: Trey Lyles (Our only need at the time was backup C or stretch 4, Lyles has talent just no heart but asset wise it was fine, Lyles moved us up 11 spots in the draft)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill (****in Hayward!)
2017: Donovan Mitchell (I still cant beileve we moved up 11 spots for Lyles )

You cant predict injuries, I think we should have had a new training staff 3 yrs ago... I like how our new guys got Hood back. Seemed like with the old staff that would have been a month out for Hood.

Trey Burke is the one that really sticks out for me, was a good draft which hurts even more.
 
Truth. Only 1 of those player aren't NBA players. I imagine that a lot of teams would be okay with this draft history, 1 bust in 6 years

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False. The Jazz have plenty of young talent.

Gobert/Favors/Rubio/Mitchell/Exum/Bradley/Hood

All these players are still young and talented.

This thread is stupid.
 
How can you make a thread about young talent and not mention our other first round pick this year?

This thread is bum.
 
1 star - Gobert
1 solid starter - Hood
2 really young good prospects with big potential - Exum and Mithcell
1 solid starter traded for - Rubio
1 role player - Burks
1 young player who has potential but who knows what - Bradley

We did miss on Burke. But that is really our only miss. Kanter is a harder one he had to play under Corbin and was immature. He wasnt a bust though.
 
I've brought this up before. You can't pay everyone. Good teams need to have cheap young talent. Exum and Hood don't count after this season because they'll be off their rookie deals. And neither does Rubio. Lindsey wasted FIVE picks trying to find a PG. He wasted another on a PF who couldn't shoot in college and still can't. I think Mitchell will be a good pick but he's certainly been the worst rookie so far offensively.

Not having decent youn talent prevents Utah from making significant trades. Overpaying for guys like Ingles makes DL have to scrape the barrel for vets no one else wants, like Sefolosha and Jerebko. Jazz roster sucks right now, missing legit starters at the 3 and 4 and a PG who is just throwing the ball everywhere.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
False. The Jazz have plenty of young talent.

Gobert/Favors/Rubio/Mitchell/Exum/Bradley/Hood

All these players are still young and talented.

This thread is stupid.
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Yeah but we don't have all the talent like the Sixers... we need all the young talent... then we can finally be good.
 
Man things have really turned.

Everyone chill.
 
Ron Mexico said:
1 star - Gobert
1 solid starter - Hood
1 really young good prospect with big potential - Mitchell
1 solid starter traded for - Rubio
1 role player - Burks
1 young player who has potential but who knows what - Exum
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Fixed it for you.
 
Catchall said:
2011: Enes Kanter (gone) and Alec Burks (doghouse)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked
2013: Trey Burke (out of the league), Rudy Gobert (stud)
2014: Dante Exum (stifled by injuries), Rodney Hood (starter)
2015: Trey Lyles (gone)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill
2017: Donovan Mitchell (good prospect)
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KOC YEARS

2011: Enes Kanter (gone) and Alec Burks (doghouse)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked

DENNIS LINDSEY YEARS:

2013: Trey Burke (Corbin begged for a point guard... this one's on Corbin), Rudy Gobert (1st TEAM ALL NBA 2016)
2014: Dante Exum (stifled by injuries), Rodney Hood (solid starter who's main fault is health)
2015: Trey Lyles (TERRIBLE PICK - but was cashed in for a lottery pick in one of the deepest drafts in a decade in spite of sucking)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill (who was a very solid pickup and lead us to the second round of the playoffs which is more than I can say for any single player that was available at #12 last year. If you loved a player in last year's draft that was available after #12 in last year's draft then name him. Murray was a major stretch at #12 btw and many of you wanted Baldwin who was just cut after 1 season - The draft sucked and we got George Hill for a year - job well done.
2017: Donovan Mitchell (AMAZING prospect)

I'd say we have no room to complain. None. We draft well, develop the talent we have well. We lost our all star player last year, they need a minute to figure things out. We'll be fine folks. It may be a rough year with ups and downs, but young talent will be something we will have for years to come.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
KOC YEARS

2011: Enes Kanter (gone) and Alec Burks (doghouse)
2012: no pick, since Golden State tanked

DENNIS LINDSEY YEARS:

2013: Trey Burke (Corbin begged for a point guard... this one's on Corbin), Rudy Gobert (1st TEAM ALL NBA 2016)
2014: Dante Exum (stifled by injuries), Rodney Hood (solid starter who's main fault is health)
2015: Trey Lyles (TERRIBLE PICK - but was cashed in for a lottery pick in one of the deepest drafts in a decade in spite of sucking)
2016: no pick, traded #12 for a season of George Hill (who was a very solid pickup and lead us to the second round of the playoffs which is more than I can say for any single player that was available at #12 last year. If you loved a player in last year's draft that was available after #12 in last year's draft then name him. Murray was a major stretch at #12 btw and many of you wanted Baldwin who was just cut after 1 season - The draft sucked and we got George Hill for a year - job well done.
2017: Donovan Mitchell (AMAZING prospect)

I'd say we have no room to complain. None. We draft well, develop the talent we have well. We lost our all star player last year, they need a minute to figure things out. We'll be fine folks. It may be a rough year with ups and downs, but young talent will be something we will have for years to come.
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If anyone wants to complain, go back to the corbin/koc days. Kanter, Favors (traded for, didn't draft), and Burks was decent considering those are the main things we had to show for some pretty bad years. Burks should have been Kawhi... that one was a big miss. But we never get a lottery ball, we lost every coin toss including losing out on what became the Harrison Barnes pick, and the best pick we have ever had was a single top 3 pick in one of the worst drafts.
 
I think we're gonna look back at that Lyles over Booker pick as one of the major missteps....



I know hindsight is 20/20, but damn... 1 guys is a future All Star, another could be out of the league in 1-2 years.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I think we're gonna look back at that Lyles over Booker pick as one of the major missteps....



I know hindsight is 20/20, but damn... 1 guys is a future All Star, another could be out of the league in 1-2 years.
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Still not as bad as burke. Lyles coulda shoulda been booker.
Burke coulda shoulda been McCollum and giannis iirc.
 
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