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JAzz assets that should be looked at being moved my the daeline

Joe Johnson - He is the kind of player that a play off team would love on their roster. He has experience and is a very competent scorer. Jazz should look at a playoff team to offer a second rounder for him or include his salary in a larger salary dump.

Derrick Favors - It hurts me to even type this but I do not see him back next year and he is worth a first round pick to the right team. I think with Gobert out it has proved that he is a very good center in the current NBA. There are a few team that could use a very good center especially a team competing now. (Hello Bucks)

Rubio is almost worthless right now. to many turn overs and he cant shoot it. I am afraid they Jazz are stuck with him but if they could.

Rodney Hood- They need to decide what they want to do with him. They own his restrictive rights this summer and could just let the market dictate what he is worth or they could find a team now that would be willing to offer a first or more for him. (Aaron Gordon maybe)

Thabo Sefelosha - is the perfect bench guy for a playoff team. He is decent at the 3 ball and plays great defense. Jazz should look for a play off team looking to give a second rounder for some bench help. Hopefully an earleir second rounder.

Epke Udoh - one of my new favorite players but if he could bring in Young assets or draft picks to a team that needs playoff depth they Jazz would have to consider it.

Burks - is a tough one because on the right team he could be a stud player but on the Jazz not so much. Because of the year remaining he does nto have as much value, but if he could be moved for assets then do it.
 
Xthren said:
JAzz assets that should be looked at being moved my the daeline

Joe Johnson - He is the kind of player that a play off team would love on their roster. He has experience and is a very competent scorer. Jazz should look at a playoff team to offer a second rounder for him or include his salary in a larger salary dump.

Derrick Favors - It hurts me to even type this but I do not see him back next year and he is worth a first round pick to the right team. I think with Gobert out it has proved that he is a very good center in the current NBA. There are a few team that could use a very good center especially a team competing now. (Hello Bucks)

Rubio is almost worthless right now. to many turn overs and he cant shoot it. I am afraid they Jazz are stuck with him but if they could.

Rodney Hood- They need to decide what they want to do with him. They own his restrictive rights this summer and could just let the market dictate what he is worth or they could find a team now that would be willing to offer a first or more for him. (Aaron Gordon maybe)

Thabo Sefelosha - is the perfect bench guy for a playoff team. He is decent at the 3 ball and plays great defense. Jazz should look for a play off team looking to give a second rounder for some bench help. Hopefully an earleir second rounder.

Epke Udoh - one of my new favorite players but if he could bring in Young assets or draft picks to a team that needs playoff depth they Jazz would have to consider it.

Burks - is a tough one because on the right team he could be a stud player but on the Jazz not so much. Because of the year remaining he does nto have as much value, but if he could be moved for assets then do it.
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I expect Favors and burks to be moved. It makes sense for bucks to trade for favors but what will they give up? I wish we could get parker somehow, but that will most likely not happen.
 
Good, productive conversation here.

If you research around the league, these are the only expiring contracts over $10 million:
Boogie Cousins
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Brook Lopez
K Caldwell Pope
Zach Randolph
Greg Monroe
JJ Redick
Amir Johnson

That's it not counting our Favors and JoeJ. Its crazy. There arent many salary dump opportunities. We have a much better chance of getting an asset by taking a salary than using an asset to take a liability like Burks or Rubio.



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LoPo said:
Good, productive conversation here.

If you research around the league, these are the only expiring contracts over $10 million:
Boogie Cousins
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Brook Lopez
K Caldwell Pope
Zach Randolph
Greg Monroe
JJ Redick
Amir Johnson

That's it not counting our Favors and JoeJ. Its crazy. There arent many salary dump opportunities. We have a much better chance of getting an asset by taking a salary than using an asset to take a liability like Burks or Rubio.



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This is my thought basically... I think there are a number of precarious cap situations next year and more teams willing to give assets to unload salary than there are teams willing to take salary back.

What would it cost us to offload Burks (that is what we'd have to do to create space)? A first... maybe two seconds?

I'd rather be on the other side of that equation and wait until 2019 to have major space. Teams in positions that will need to move salary:

- Denver - They want to extend Jokic this summer... will be around 135M if everyone opts in and that is without Barton.
- Milwaukee - If Parker gets a max offer and I think he will... they will be well over the tax if they match.
- Lakers - need to dump salary if they get a big FA.
- OKC - Depending on how the PG FA goes.
- NO - Keeping Boogie with that squad gets spendy.
- Porty - How much Luxury Tax will they pay to keep a middling team together?
- LAC - if they keep DeAndre.
- Wizards - They gonna pay repeaters tax next year?
- CHA - Inching towards the tax and going nowhere.
- Det - Likely need to clear salary if they are going to retain Bradley.
- Miami - Going to be in trouble with the tax because of how Tyler Johnson's contract is structured.

Lots of sellers... go get picks or good prospects for expirings... it is the best use of our cap space next year and helps the tank.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This is my thought basically... I think there are a number of precarious cap situations next year and more teams willing to give assets to unload salary than there are teams willing to take salary back.

What would it cost us to offload Burks (that is what we'd have to do to create space)? A first... maybe two seconds?

I'd rather be on the other side of that equation and wait until 2019 to have major space. Teams in positions that will need to move salary:

- Denver - They want to extend Jokic this summer... will be around 135M if everyone opts in and that is without Barton.
- Milwaukee - If Parker gets a max offer and I think he will... they will be well over the tax if they match.
- Lakers - need to dump salary if they get a big FA.
- OKC - Depending on how the PG FA goes.
- NO - Keeping Boogie with that squad gets spendy.
- Porty - How much Luxury Tax will they pay to keep a middling team together?
- LAC - if they keep DeAndre.
- Wizards - They gonna pay repeaters tax next year?
- CHA - Inching towards the tax and going nowhere.
- Det - Likely need to clear salary if they are going to retain Bradley.
- Miami - Going to be in trouble with the tax because of how Tyler Johnson's contract is structured.

Lots of sellers... go get picks or good prospects for expirings... it is the best use of our cap space next year and helps the tank.
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Good post

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Jazz arent going to pay anything to unload Burks. If they really need to shed some salary, they can always stretch his salary.
 
There just aren't a lot of reasonable ways we get to have meaningful cap space next year without removing AB and Rubio from the books.

I think getting expiring contracts is the way to go... would leave us still in a good position to trade for a team moving a good player on a big contract.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There just aren't a lot of reasonable ways we get to have meaningful cap space next year without removing AB and Rubio from the books.

I think getting expiring contracts is the way to go... would leave us still in a good position to trade for a team moving a good player on a big contract.
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What expiring contracts can we acquire? The list is incredibly small.

We need to use our expirings since we have 2 over $10 million.

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Good night. We now just need a miracle from the Bulls in the next game. I can't imagine them beating us but miracles happen every day.
 
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